As in the subject I have this GG-1 I built around 1996 I guess. It has TMCC. I am not a TMCC operator and have little knowledge of operation. I have the cab 1. The eng I have had a couple of years and never had luck at using TMCC. Here is the issue. The first time on track without TMCC it would run in one direction only. I programed with instructions supplied with unit. Lights flashed and engine would move forward and reverse also reversing headlight. As this does not have a speaker it has no horn etc. Brake worked and seemed to work properly. Sold it and was returned as non running. Again I tested it and it functioned normally also it did not run without TMCC cab one. I took it off the track and retested and it would not even light up. If I pushed it down the track the lights would glow [all of them}. I did a reprogram and tested and it would barely run 5 inches with low lighting or low power and stopped. This unit looks new, even the insulators have not been installed on the pantograph. I have to believe This TMCC has to be on of the first as to the limited abilities. Seems like a connection problem but do not know wear to start. Has anyone encountered this type of issue as right now I will have to sell it as parts or just install electronic E unit for pullmore motors as the TMCC has such limited operation or selling it at great loss. Any advice will be appreciated Even if told to use it as a door stop but already have too many door stops. Respectfully Roy O
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I couldn't quite follow your narrative, but in general, there are two things to keep in mind with this locomotive.
1) That particular GG1 has a problem with the truck magnets rubbing against the drive wheels. This thread has some details: https://ogrforum.com/...-lionel-gg1-question
2) You MUST install the pantographs on die-cast GG1s for the TMCC to work reliably. They serve as the antenna for the electronics, otherwise you'll get intermittent or no operation in TMCC mode.
TRW
I purchased the same loco a couple of years ago. As TRW mentioned, the magnets had come loose and were rubbing against the backs of the drive wheels.
I was able to reset them with epoxy. I used JB Weld. But if you decide to do it, be sure to place cardboard spacers between the backs of the wheels and the magnets. Use the type of cardboard found on the backs of writing tablets. It's dense enough not to crush.
Mine has worked flawlessly since.
Dan, very useful information. I disassembled and found only one magnet rubbing wheel I did noticed these are staked in. This is a good start. I still have the question as to location to plug green pantograph wire. Mine was disconnected. also informed pantograph is also used for antenna? I assumed its for a centenary system. maybe both but it did run without them. anybody know location of pin to plug in green wire? Roy O
If the green wire you're referring to is the one that's connected to both pantograph lugs on the inside of the shell, then it gets plugged into the one solitary pin on the corner of the board.
TRW
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Thank you much Roy O
Do I understand correctly that this GG-1 does not run in a conventional mode only TMCC ? Roy O
All TMCC locos will run in conventional, and your GG1 is no exception -- provided the magnets aren't preventing movement by rubbing against the back of the wheels.
TRW
Besides what is stated making sure program switch in run position for conventional and TMCC after programming. As stated having antenna wire connected for reliable TMCC. The other issue is with Pulmore motors and this has two. Need to ensure the are lubricated and spin freely. I think the last time I worked on this type of engine I had to remove motors, regrease and oil lightly the trucks making sure they spun freely. Followed by motors. Sometimes a misalignment of the motor top can also cause poor motor performance contributing to poor operation. G
Up date. Repaired dragging magnet and retested. Worked every time in TMCC and responded to all commands. What few it has. Non TMCC mode it would always move in one direction and only a couple times went into neutral and reverse. O well better of than a non run. Thanks all for the help. Roy O
When you tried to run in non-TMCC mode (AKA conventional mode) did you turn off or unplug the command base?
Roy O posted:Non TMCC mode it would always move in one direction and only a couple times went into neutral and reverse.
What transformer are you using? Some electronic transformers don't fully go to zero volts, which prevents the electronic reverse unit from cycling.
Try this... power up your transformer, and then disconnect one of the track wires and reconnect -- this will sequence the reverse unit. If your loco changes directions properly using this method, then the problem is your transformer.
TRW