JAD City of Portland M10000

Carey,

Nice m10000!  Have fun with it.  My JAD Hiawatha (same McCoy motor, I think) was pretty stubborn/stiff when I first got it -- Arno advised me to lubricate it and run under zero load for about an hour in each direction to break it in.  I just placed in a service cradle and ran it upside down for a while. It was much more "super" after that!  

How well are the vestibules staying together on the cars?  My Hiawatha only makes a few revolutions before consistently coming apart at one section. I think the spring that holds the vestibule latch needs to exert more force. I might try stretching or replacing it -- something to tweak before running the Hiawatha again.

Rob/Carey,

I had the same issue with the vestibules on my JAD Hiawatha. Thanks to guidance from Arno and David aka Hojack, I replaced the springs and the problem was cured. It's a relatively easy fix.

John 

With a thorough cleaning and some fresh oil and grease, my Hiawatha runs like a top! Im very jealous of your beautiful M10000. Thanks for sharing!

Hello everyone ....  Thank you for your kind words ... how does one replace the springs ..it looks as if you need to pop rivets ?????

The springs are flimsy at best .... however I'm blessed that they have had together the times that I've run the JAD trains....Rob this motor I think is different ( smaller ) than the Hiawatha ....it is held in place buy a sliding hook ...if not secured your motor drops out .... oh the power of gravity .  

I'll grease her up and flip her upside down turn on the juice and walk away for awhile .

Last night got some shelves up for the stream-liners... walls are not long enough !!! 

I prefer the JAD Hiawatha with the aluminium body ......on the wall once you see a Jerry Brown  set ... the JAD COP looks like a toy ... oh that's right they are all toys...

Video link to the   Hiawatha chasing it's tail ... straights are coming in the next layout ...

Cheers Carey 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3jTS6YKRxk

Hello all....the motor may not be super ... as it is smaller ( shorter wheel base ) than what is found  in the Hiawatha ...please see photos....also a few shots of the clip on the top ..and the view of the inside showing where  the motor swings from ....note construction of nose ..a cast resin type ... nice detail ..but it's  a resin  type mixture ...

Cheers Carey 

Carey Williams posted:

Hello everyone ....  Thank you for your kind words ... how does one replace the springs ..it looks as if you need to pop rivets ?????

The springs are flimsy at best .... however I'm blessed that they have had together the times that I've run the JAD trains....Rob this motor I think is different ( smaller ) than the Hiawatha ....it is held in place buy a sliding hook ...if not secured your motor drops out .... oh the power of gravity .  

 

I'll grease her up and flip her upside down turn on the juice and walk away for awhile .

Last night got some shelves up for the stream-liners... walls are not long enough !!! 

I prefer the JAD Hiawatha with the aluminium body ......on the wall once you see a Jerry Brown  set ... the JAD COP looks like a toy ... oh that's right they are all toys...

 

Video link to the   Hiawatha chasing it's tail ... straights are coming in the next layout ...

Cheers Carey 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3jTS6YKRxk

 

 

 

 

Replacement of the vestibule springs is a relatively quick and easy fix, and there's no need to pop any rivets. Pretty much all you need for tools are a pair of needle-nose pliers and a small screwdriver. Here are the steps:

1: Use the screwdriver to compress the spring down and away from the "C" clip. While compressing the spring, use the pliers to remove the upper "C" clip.

2: Using the pliers, remove the lower "C" clip. Once these clips are off, you can then remove the pin, spring and sliver (for lack of a better word) "dish" by sliding the pin up through the vestibule's roof. 

3: Repeat these steps in reverse with a stronger spring. Once you put in a stronger spring, you'll see how weak the OEM springs really are. After I replaced the springs, there has been no unwanted uncoupling.  Below is a photo of all the parts after it's been taken apart. 

Hope this helps. 

John

Hello John ..thank you very much for the easy to follow directions on the spring upgrade .... to prevent that unwanted dropping of passengers at non designated stops. 

Cheers Carey  

You are welcome--if you run into any trouble, let me know. 

Carey Williams posted:

Hello everyone ....  Thank you for your kind words ... how does one replace the springs ..it looks as if you need to pop rivets ?????

The springs are flimsy at best .... however I'm blessed that they have had together the times that I've run the JAD trains....Rob this motor I think is different ( smaller ) than the Hiawatha ....it is held in place buy a sliding hook ...if not secured your motor drops out .... oh the power of gravity .  

 

I'll grease her up and flip her upside down turn on the juice and walk away for awhile .

Last night got some shelves up for the stream-liners... walls are not long enough !!! 

I prefer the JAD Hiawatha with the aluminium body ......on the wall once you see a Jerry Brown  set ... the JAD COP looks like a toy ... oh that's right they are all toys...

 

Video link to the   Hiawatha chasing it's tail ... straights are coming in the next layout ...

Cheers Carey 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3jTS6YKRxk

 

 WOW, what a great display!!!  I am Sean, the son of Richard ‘Dick’ Battaglia who was the D in JAD.

i wanted to let you know as well as others that they can contact me for any questions or just to say Hi  I was  about 7 years old when JAD was rocking and rolling and have some great memories of going to all the shows and meets back then  

I’ll put my phone number below but will spell it out so the bots won’t be able to pick it up and as I get way too many sales calls as is.  If any JAD enthusiast out there wants to contact me feel free to text me if possible prior to calling As I don’t answer unknown numbers but if you can’t text then just leave a voicemail .  Thanks again for sharing your awesome photos!

sean

area code three one zero - four eight nine - five two two five

 

 

 

Sean,

Tragically we lost Arno to cancer two years ago.  Several members of the Standard Gauge Module Association are trying to complete his book on modern era standard gauge toy trains.  I will pass your contact information on to them.  Thanks for posting!!

Kirk Lindvig

www.sgma.us

Pretty darn cool.  It looked like it was running pretty good from here.  

Thank you.  I enjoyed that,       W1

Carey, Did all of Arno's collection get sold off? I have seen a couple of pieces that I thought Carolyn was going to keep as a display (the good stuff in the display room)

Jim

I see there was also a General Models M10000 in his collection (top shelf). 

Hello all I believe Arno's collection is still in place . Only sales were some odd extra bits