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Hello, I am presently updating the LED lighting in my Lionel Norfolk Southern SD-80 Diesel Locomotive 6-28226. I purchased this locomotive used and at present it has headlights both front and rear that are led's (one bulb is dim) and the numbers board, ditch lights, and classification lights are incandescent bulbs.

I purchased a few led regulated light boards that convert track power to DC to accommodate the led's. I would like to replace all bulbs listed to led using the regulated light kits.

What I am looking for is the switch or terminal to connect the light kits to, that would allow directional lighting for the ditch lights, headlight light, and back-up lights. The locomotive currently has factory directional lighting.

There are two factory light boards in the front of the unit and one in the rear. The following are the current output values on the bulb side of the boards when powered up. Larger front board wired to Ditch Lights: 7.25 Volts DC., Classification lights (red) 1.5 Volts AC., Smaller Slave Board (located in ceiling of cab) is wired to the Dual Headlights: 1.38 Volts DC., Numbers Board Lights 13.3 Volts AC. Lastly, the rear single Light Board is wired to Dual Headlights 3.16 Volts DC., Number Board lights 13.3 Volts AC., Classification Lights (red) 1.5 Volts AC.

I am new to the O gauge hobby, and I am open for any suggestions if there is a better way to approach this. Having to use the light kits are not final for me. The various voltages really make it confusing. Thanks, Mike

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Truthfully, for use in locomotives, I typically just use a resistor and diode to regulate the current and polarity.

I don't always convert everything to LED, sometimes incandescent bulbs do a better job.  Cab lights and number boards come to mind, many times the more evenly distributed light from incandescent bulbs work better in those applications.

I like to draw a diagram if I'm doing a more complicated lighting job so I can sort out all the details before I'm soldering stuff in.   Here's one of the more involved lighting configurations I did, this will give you an idea of handling the various lighting functions. This was for a demo of the then new ERR Cruise Commander Lite board in a small locomotive.  This is a project that I did almost ten years ago, but it's aged well: Cruise Commander Lite Beta Test, Part Deux, see the thread link for details on all the functions.

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Fellows, thanks for the thoughts, comments, and wire diagram.

Can anyone tell me exactly where the switch or terminal is located that switches the directional lighting from front to rear. I assume it is located somewhere in the DCDR or the Radio Board. A pictorial illustration would be great if available. This unit is Odyssey 1 and has the DCDR with the black 6 Pin female Molex cable input at its base.

This would be a great help to me and with the earlier comments, this gives me a great starting point.

Gunrunner, I did not know you have other available parts other than the SuperChuffer II.  Where do I find your available parts list for O Gauge Locomotives? Would you have any Lionel Railsounds SD Diesel Locomotive sound chips 4E and above? Or any complete Railsounds 4E and above SD Boards? Thanks, Mike

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Fellows, thanks for the thoughts, comments, and wire diagram.

Can anyone tell me exactly where the switch or terminal is located that switches the directional lighting from front to rear. I assume it is located somewhere in the DCDR or the Radio Board.



The standard R2LC is the main controller and radio receiver of the TMCC signal. The standardized pinout applies to the motherboard socket this plugs into.

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Also, from Lionel Support, the parts list specific to this engine https://www.lionelsupport.com/...SD80MAC-7204-6-28226

The motherboard -691-PCB1-11E

Which leads us to THIS very important to keep in our back pocket information by @Rod Stewart https://ogrforum.com/...nections%20R1.31.pdf

Again, massive thanks to all who contribute to the excellent documentation!!!

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I've added LEDs to PS2  MTH engines per Gunrunner's info.

  I now have a PS3 MTH engine that I want to add two LED interior cab lights that didn't come OEM.   Not sure what has to be done for a PS3 .

The engine has double LEDs for the front and the rear headlights .   It also has LEDs for the front and rear number boards as well as two LEDs for the marker lights front and rear.  A total of 12 LEDs but no cab lights.  I don't necessarily need the cab lights to only come on when in neutral.    Need help AGAIN

If you just want to have cab lights on all the time, you can run them from track power.  For two LED's no diodes necessary, connected them to track power through a 1K resistor and connect them in opposite polarity in parallel.  That protects them from reverse voltage over their specs.

Thanks John.

I keep this thing on a' live yard '.   Would there be a safe way to split off of maybe the marker light wires ?

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