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My apologies for not keeping up with the Legacy smoke issue that was discussed a year or so ago. A curious as to what to do here with our Union Pacific Mikado that I purchased new. The smoke went out early on and was sent to and repaired by Lionel quickly and at no charge.  It worked fine for a year and a half during occasional use now that we don't have a home layout.  The last time I ran it at the club it began the dreaded 3 blinks of death again so it went back up on the shelf until this evening. I have been test running several of our Lionel engines and locomotives this evening on my bench test track. Sure enough, still no smoke and the cab light blinks.

What is the latest information on the best way to rectify this situation please?  I was under the impression that they originally had weak smoke units and that the factory repair corrected this giving us a dependable smoke system? 

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Three blinks is the smoke unit fan. The diagnostics senses excessive draw from the fan motor and shuts it down.

When these locomotives were originally released Lionel had a rash of defective motors in their locos. I know, I had a k4 with the same problem. Typically, the motors got noisey from defective shaft bushings and eventually quit.

In your case, either the replacement fan motor is defective too. Or, if it's been sitting a while, a drop of oil on the fan motor shaft bushing may free it up so it doesn't set off the diagnostic shutdown.

I'd try the oil first. This is a common solution for smoke unit fan problems in Lionel and MTH alike. If that doesn't work replace the fan motor.Lionel has them on their parts site, some have mentioned replacing them with mth motors as well.

It's a bit tedious but not impossible.

There are numerous old threads on this subject if you do a search.
Last edited by RickO

Hi Sam,

 

Folks might say I'm crazy, but sometimes this method works. It has worked for me every time I tried it. If you have a air compressor adjust it to 25 PSI, simply shoot the air into the stack it will  spin the fan motor quite fast. Do this two or three times, then reset or reprogram the engine and it might be repaired. If you don't have a compressor you can try a can of compressed air. Many times these motors fail because the smoke fluid gets inside of them, by using the compressed air it clears the fluid out . Sounds crazy but it works

 

Alex

Originally Posted by Alex M:

Hi Sam,

 

Folks might say I'm crazy, but sometimes this method works. It has worked for me every time I tried it. If you have a air compressor adjust it to 25 PSI, simply shoot the air into the stack it will  spin the fan motor quite fast. Do this two or three times, then reset or reprogram the engine and it might be repaired. If you don't have a compressor you can try a can of compressed air. Many times these motors fail because the smoke fluid gets inside of them, by using the compressed air it clears the fluid out . Sounds crazy but it works

 

Alex

This method supports my observation of my ES44 that had the 3 blinks when I got it new. I just kept running it and after a number of running-failure events, it finally kept running. But I think in my case, the motor had to run-in a bit rather than smoke fluid issues.

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