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Catalog is meh
Hobo sounds is a nice idea but it will never sell at 136 - 170.
Same old roads. Nothing for me.
The main things that stick out for me are all from the MTH tooling. The Amtrak engines, wood passenger cars (although I'll see if they match my existing), and the reindeer barn. Hey Lionel you'd be wise to put a red LED in the "Rudolph" window.
Everything else isn't for me but at least we can put the 90 to bed finally. Not a bad catalog though.
I'm eyeing that UP 4-12-2 but I wonder if I would be able to tuck those wires away that are sticking out over the lead drive wheel.
Lionel Lines 773 and Reading hoppers
Well, they peaked my interest. The 2-8-0 steamers is the only wheel arrangement I don't have for steam engines. I've been going smaller for my steam engines purchases of late. Maine Central or NYC?
Also like the B&M wood sided passenger cars but 400 retail for two!!!!
I know going price will be around 350 but still
So no pre-orders for me. been burned to many times with defective product or bad paint jobs from Lionel. I'll wait until they hit the streets and the reviews.
Thoughts????
Are the 2-8-0 MTH tooling?
@BillYo414 posted:I'm eyeing that UP 4-12-2 but I wonder if I would be able to tuck those wires away that are sticking out over the lead drive wheel.
Paint 'em black!
That Maine Central is sharp! @superwarp1 I like that tender a lot.
Do you find that skipping the preorder doesnt usually make it tough to find the products you want?
@Mike Wyatt posted:Paint 'em black!
Read my mind. That would be my backup plan! I've used that trick a number of times with unexpected success. Really does make stuff disappear!
My heart dropped to the floor as I have been waiting for a scale lionel legacy Amtrak Genesis and they make a 0 lionchief 2.0 toy I’m so disappointed. I hope they make a scale legacy engine in the future. With MTH gone I had hope for one.
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I am probably in the same situation as a lot of us- I have filled the walls with racks, found every area to put in (fake) yards, and used up all my space. I was going to stay w/ conventional control. That didn't last. Time to start thinning the herd to create room, or maybe move. The best solution is probably selling off the postwar stuff I bought a few years ago - maybe a train garage sale??
Then I would have room for new offerings!
I like the Maine Central 2-8-0 but I've already preordered the MTH Maine Central Pacific, so I'll pass.
I also see that Big L has the tooling for MTH's wood passenger cars. I have a set of them and they are exquisite.
@superwarp1 posted:Are the 2-8-0 MTH tooling?
Gary, these are Harriman 2-8-0s (UP, SP) that Lionel has done in the past. Modelers of eastern roads will have to squint their eyes.
Pete
Interesting that none of the wood passenger cars indicate an observation car. Maybe next catalog but frankly they should be offered together IMO.
@Norton posted:Gary, these are Harriman 2-8-0s (UP, SP) that Lionel has done in the past. Modelers of eastern roads will have to squint their eyes.
Pete
Thanks, then I'm definitely holding off until the reviews.
The Hobo Sounds boxcar has to have a few conversation sequences when the car is stopped.
Andrew
@BillYo414 posted:I'm eyeing that UP 4-12-2 but I wonder if I would be able to tuck those wires away that are sticking out over the lead drive wheel.
Great catch! Missed that until you mentioned it. Well, at least you know the picture was not an artist rendition.
I do want a SOO LINE extended vision caboose to match the GP30 pair.
I did not expect it to be a CABOOSE CAM car though.
Andrew
Nothing for me. I’ve got to stop hoping for more AFT cars, tired of being disappointed.
Charles Ro pre-order pricing is out. Very fast for them.
I thought the catalog was pretty good! Prices not so much, lol. Definitely will be getting some Strasburg stuff and the Long Island C-Liner! I was hoping that Lionel would’ve made one of their 2-8-0’s as a “bootleg” Strasburg/N&W #475. Yeah, I know the the real #475 is a 4-8-0 and not a 2-8-0, but the Harriman version looks kinda similar to the way it looks now in my opinion 🤷♂️ Anyway, here’s all of my favorites...
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They finally have the ALASKA ACF Center Flow 3-bay cylindrical hopper in the catalog.
Andrew
It's always good to see New England & Strasburg items. I already have the MTH Strasburg 19th Century cars, assuming these are a re-issue.
I love the artists painting of the cover - pure imagination. Anyone know if there's a hint in that? I instantly thought of the Acela which was featured in the last catalog. A cab view monitor would be awesome...not the caboose cam.
@Bruce Brown posted:Great catch! Missed that until you mentioned it. Well, at least you know the picture was not an artist rendition.
I was looking for this mysterious 3rd piston when I saw it. The uniqueness of the drive and sounds makes me want to get this locomotive even though it's a heck of a stretch for the budget. I honestly think I would get it in a C&O scheme too. I'm not usually into the fantasy schemes but given that this thing would never find it my side of the country anyway, why not? It's sure to start some conversations and ball busting at operating sessions!
I am going to reserve 2 or 3 of the 4-door 86' boxcars.
I like THE ROCK scheme on box cars, I might get the Standard O ROCK 50' box cars
Andrew
The Cascade Green on the Burlington Northern SD45 looks too dark.
Andrew
@falconservice posted:The Cascade Green on the Burlington Northern SD45 looks too dark.
Andrew
It's Photoshop.
Rusty
Love the Strasburg 2-10-0s. Price is outrageous, but I think I am going to have to spring for one anyway. Have the MTH Strasburg engine, but don't really like it, and I need an engine to pull my awesome MTH Strasburg woodside passenger cars that were lit by the master - Jack Pearce. Biggest question will be which one to select.
Pat
For anyone who was on the LCCA call, was there any discussion about whether the new freight cars will have articulated couplers? Thanks.
Pat
Since I only do PRR, I am safe with this catalog. This is actually good news to me since I have an S1 coming soon. Wallet needs to recover from that one. Now if someone does a special run of the SW1200 in PRR, I would bite. That is a sweet looking switcher.
I’m in with Joe on the PRR SW1200 👍🏼🚂
HELLO Mr Muffin
I like the paint scheme choices on the Standard O Modern 50' boxcars, but I noticed they are still using the old trucks, not new Roller Bearing trucks.
That is making me conflicted about ordering them.
Andrew
@Joe Fermani posted:Since I only do PRR, I am safe with this catalog. This is actually good news to me since I have an S1 coming soon. Wallet needs to recover from that one. Now if someone does a special run of the SW1200 in PRR, I would bite. That is a sweet looking switcher.
When I heard they were doing FM C-Liners I thought maybe I would buy one. When I saw the fantasy paint scheme on it (Tuscan 5-stripe) I was surprised, then I noticed Lionel's version is the passenger model (6-wheel rear truck). So I guess that makes sense. So that is a double reason I will pass - fantasy paint and the PRR never had the passenger version, only the freight version.
Did MTH do the freight version?
The Ashley, Drew & Northern modern 50' boxcar should be considered to be weathered. The green looks dirty or weathered.
The builder fresh green for ADN cars was much brighter.
https://www.railcarphotos.com/...ls.php?PhotoID=88673
Andrew
No new locomotives, so no interest there for me. I can just buy older TMCC versions and upgrade to a CC-M for half the price. Only thing that caught my eye was the ATSF diecast hopper 2 pack. Might grab that.
Great catalog - going to be fun deciding what to order!
