Only 50 being made. Not a bad looking car.
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MartyE posted:Only 50 being made. Not a bad looking car.
Looks nice, but at only 50 units, I'm guessing there will be people with sleeping bags at the nearest door on Wednesday night to line up to get one.
I'll just resign myself to the fact that I won't be able to obtain one, unless I buy one in 5-10 years when no one cares about them anymore.
Thanks for posting, though. I'm not trying to rain on the parade, but only 50 units is nuts for something like this. Will tick off more people than not, I think.
-Dave
How much to be the first kid in your neighborhood to have one? $$
This would be a excellent idea if all the money for 50 cars goes to charity of some kind.
Sell them for couple hundred or more a pop.
That could be a big deal for York I think.
Larry
PS. They are out of my league but, I'm just saying.
Creating a collectors item. No thanks. Lionel has been good at doing that for years . Some of them collector item you can't give away now. Just like most convention cars.
This would be a excellent idea if all the money for 50 cars goes to charity of some kind.
Like the TCA.
I won't be looking for either but still a nice looking car. No details yet on where or how to obtain one.
So orange hall is the place...how is still a mystery.
Maybe hourly give aways at the meet. If so hope I win one so I can sell it and get something I would want.
It doesn't look particularly "YORKISH" to me.
Richard
Another Warbonnet and Hudson?
Richard Gonzales posted:It doesn't look particularly "YORKISH" to me.
Richard
What does York look like?
Guess they have to raise some capital to pay their York expenses unless they bring their John's bargain store items again to York. I think it was an embarrassment last time selling direct there for such a coveted train manufacturer.
The York boxcar is the opposite and an excellent idea. Looks like a very nicely detailed boxcar.
Would you put it in the collector's category, souvenir category, or both? I suppose it could also be a self-esteem booster for those who have a sense of "specialness" owning something few others have.
ogaugeguy posted:Would you put it in the collector's category, souvenir category, or both? I suppose it's a self-esteem booster appealing to those folks who enjoy a sense of "specialness" by having something few others have.
It will be very very Special, until they do another one in the Fall, then two every year.
Would you put it in the collector's category, souvenir category, or both? I suppose it could also be a self-esteem booster for those who have a sense of "specialness" owning something few others have.
I don't see it as a Toy Train collector's item.
In my experience, collectors don't go for items that are made in artificially low numbers.
Which is not to say that there aren't people who would enjoy owning one of these boxcars. I bet they will sell out quickly. Enjoy!
MartyE posted:Richard Gonzales posted:It doesn't look particularly "YORKISH" to me.
Richard
What does York look like?
How about the fairgrounds???
I Wouldn't have it even if Lionel sprinkled it with dust from Madison Hardware.
Richard
If I get one. I get one, if not... no big deal. But I will try.
IMHO, more a souvenir than a collectible but then who am I to make that call. Certainly not a knowledgeable collector but rather a guy with too many of the Polar Express Toy Fair boxcars who instead of selling them off a few years back when there was a fair profit to be made from them instead decided to hold on to them hoping the ever increasing popularity of The Polar Express line would boost their value but in reality has seen their $$$ value fall to much less than it was just a few years ago.
I would be willing to. Pay $3.00 for one. However, two for $5.00 seems more reasonable.
I hope they don't use that corrosive lubricant on these. That will surely kill the resale value.
Don't worry, in sure somebody will get one than put it on his table for 10x the price with a "rare collectables" sign on it.
Yup. Limited edition,"Built to order" All Lionel"s hype for everyone to run out and buy one before their all gone! Brilliant!
Maybe they made a mistake and meant 500. I don't even like the car. Back in 1994 at the national in York lionel made 100 Clinchfield hoppers. I won the one at my table. I thought WOW I have a rare car. Now they go for $10.-$20.
There's an old saying, If it is limited edition it will never be worth anything.
Im thinking these are raffle items...maybe? 50 is a ridiculously low number for York. Unless they are testing the waters to see how much interest there is. Nice looking boxcar but I'm not camping out for one. BigRail
eddie g posted:Maybe they made a mistake and meant 500. ...
Nope... look very closely at the enlarged box car graphic. The text on the door reads "1 of 50". 
I do give Lionel a ton of credit for having the gumption to continue pumping out these "one off" limited edition products, which they hope will generate a buying frenzy in the marketplace. Unfortunately, almost everybody here has pretty much walked this road before... and knows the routine by now. Yes... there will be a buying frenzy, folks will trip over themselves to get one (or two), and there will undoubtedly be a premium associated with the boxcar for a year or two. Original owners will at least have that satisfaction... however short-lived that may be.
In later years, they won't be able to give this boxcar away... be it 1 of 50, 1 of 500, or 1 of whatever. When you've traveled this merry-go-round before, ya just know how it's all gonna go down before the first boxcar is even sold, raffled off, or whatever. 
David
Collectable? Not sure. I have 3 of the 125 cars that KLINE made for our AOL online York BBQ's. T@hat was Maury's and Bob Grubba's donation to the 8th semi-annual event which you used to have at York. Allan Miller can attest to our BBQ's.
One went on ebay years ago for $90 but that was years ago. I tried selling one at a few shows for $50, maybe here on OGR with NO interest.
Collectable? I would not lose sleep over it nor even waste my time at York waiting on a line to buy one of the 50. Lionel has a good idea selling this unique car but that is where it ends.
But yes, I agree with someone here that it will be on someone's table for 10x the price or on the fleebay.
So many people here would complain about be given $1000 in $1 bills.
MartyE posted:Only 50 being made. Not a bad looking car.
A train friend of mine from Michigan will be looking for those York cars; he has three regular customers willing to pay top dollar for these limited editions, let the chase begin.
MartyE posted:So many people here would complain about be given $1000 in $1 bills.
Welcome to the forum! 
C W Burfle posted:In my experience, collectors don't go for items made in artificially low numbers. Which is not to say that there aren't people who would enjoy owning one of these boxcars.
I bet they will sell out quickly.
Quickly? Sadly, they will be virtually unattainable.
RadioRon posted:C W Burfle posted:In my experience, collectors don't go for items made in artificially low numbers. Which is not to say that there aren't people who would enjoy owning one of these boxcars.
I bet they will sell out quickly.
Quickly? Sadly, they will be virtually unattainable.
Ron, I guess I'm still a bit puzzled that folks would actually waste their energy fretting over whether they can get one of these 50 cars or not. 
I mean really... WHAT is the big deal? I would have thought by now that most seasoned enthusiasts don't particularly enjoy being played like a fiddle -- and that's putting it kindly. So while I understand why somebody may want to own one of these boxcars, I can't quite wrap my head around the disappointment of missing out. There are FAR more important things in life to be disappointed about, and this one surely doesn't make the short list in my book. 
I guess Lionel doesn't have all that much to promote at York this month, if they need to stoop this low to generate a buzz factor!!! 
Maybe Atlas-O should take a page out of Lionel's book, and offer something similar to deflect all the spears they're gonna need to catch regarding the continued delay of Santa Fe F7's and CZ F3's. 
David
They just can't do anything right, can they.
Rod Miller
Wow such sinister schemes going on behind the scenes at Lionel. The York Boxcar ruse. Genius. Yes I have to say you guys have seen through the plot to get train folks angry, divert attention, and mess with your minds. And here I thought it was just a nice boxcar. Then again I don't make it a hobby of analyzing these things to the degree some do.
I love York but have no interest in this car. I have to admit that I really like the graphics on it but the car itself looks like the car Lionel uses in their starter sets. It appears to be a undersized 6464 pw type of car with no stirrups and a screw in the side of it. At least MTH gives you a Premier boxcar in their Catalog boxcars. If it was a scale car at a reasonable price like the MTH catalog cars I would consider it but knowing Lionel's prices and the low production number I bet this car will not be inexpensive. For the folks that want it, I say go for it and enjoy the chase. I will sit on the sidelines.
All opinion.
MartyE posted:Only 50 being made. Not a bad looking car.
My only question, why so many? one of ten sounds much better. A perfect fit behind that worthless chrome Berk from last year.
joe
Better watch out for the STAMPEED in the ORANGE HALL come Thursday at high noon?
Get the women and children out of the way!!!!!
laz1957 posted:Better watch out for the STAMPEED in the ORANGE HALL come Thursday at high noon?
Get the women and children out of the way!!!!!
MY guess is they'll raffle them off one per hour at the booth.....
Joe
Hudson J1e posted:I love York but have no interest in this car. I have to admit that I really like the graphics on it but the car itself looks like the car Lionel uses in their starter sets. It appears to be a undersized 6464 pw type of car with no stirrups and a screw in the side of it. At least MTH gives you a Premier boxcar in their Catalog boxcars. If it was a scale car at a reasonable price like the MTH catalog cars I would consider it but knowing Lionel's prices and the low production number I bet this car will not be inexpensive. For the folks that want it, I say go for it and enjoy the chase. I will sit on the sidelines.
All opinion.
We all have our differing opinions on these type of cars.
For me, I expect nothing more or less than a 6464 type of car for something like this that is obviously not a scale piece. To me that is the definition of what one of these commemorative or "collector" boxcars should be. (and by collector, I don't mean worth a lot money necessarily - the now maligned Horde and Hellgate cars were also of this style, as well as most of the Vapor Records, most of the TCA Museum commemorative cars, etc.)
While I am not suggesting the opinion is not valid, I never can understand why some people say they might like it better and be interested in getting one if it was a scale design. It's obviously not a scale car. I don't specifically dislike that the MTH cars are more to scale Premier pieces, but I don't see it as a selling point either (aside form at this point it should match all the previous offerings - but Iit didn't need to start as a scale series as far as I am concerned). For the MTH cars people used to talk about it being a good deal for a potential repaint, since the car used to be offered much cheaper than any other Premier cars. I can see that aspect for people who were buying them just to repaint them.
I might try to get one. I won't complain if it's the standard MSRP of $85 if it's a USA assembled piece either (which it probably is). I'm just not getting my hopes up, and I'm not going to give some guy who got in line before me $200 (or any ridiculous markup) for one on his table.
-Dave
E-UNIT-79 posted:Don't worry, in sure somebody will get one than put it on his table for 10x the price with a "rare collectables" sign on it.
YOU KNOW IT! And I am getting my roller skates on and pads to take down anyone in my way!
It will be the next Natty Boh reefer!
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