Lionel F3 earliest can motor versions

Postwar

How about the Neil Young Signature Series F3s and sets ?  They have Postwar tooling with all Legacy features including can motors.

2013 Signature Catalog - 11194 Texas Special F3 AA pass set and 11195 Pennsylvania F3 AA pas set

In the 2013 Fall catalog, the same F3 AA Diesels were available separately. 81452 Texas Special and 81453 Pennsylvania.

Update:

34521 Santa Fe F3 A unit 2007 Volume 1, can motors and conventional control. Also a B unit 34522 was offered.

Yes I have the Neil Young PRR F units. What I want is to get a plain conventional F3 to upgrade to tmcc Maybe no can motor conventiona  run F3 exists

Are you referring to Post War style or full scale? 2002.    6-14536 Santa Fe Train 16 full scale with TMCC and China Drives.

Pete

The Williams clones of the postwar F3 are conventional with can motors.

Great Thanks. Forgot about Wllliams

The Williams are great but you cannot easily do a DCS conversion because the F3s use a different flywheel to fit the shell so you cannot mount the tach tape.  TMCC works.  Candidly if you just retire them to run slower that is all you need - they are smooth and steady.

To the best of my knowledge the first can motor powered F3's are as follows:

• 6-14536 AA Set (Santa Fe) and 6-14552 (NYC), Released 2002; Not seen in a catalog -- announced via special flyer (see below). The first A Unit is powered and has TMCC as well as RailSounds.  The second A Unit is not powered.

Mike

@Mellow Hudson Mike posted:

To the best of my knowledge the first can motor powered F3's are as follows:

• 6-14536 AA Set (Santa Fe) and 6-14552 (NYC), Released 2002; Not seen in a catalog -- announced via special flyer (see below). The first A Unit is powered and has TMCC as well as RailSounds.  The second A Unit is not powered.

Mike

These were not "classic" F units based on postwar tooling.  They were accurate scale models.  I have a cherished set of the NYC units, which were in prototypically correct "freight black".