Lionel Hallows Eve Loco Issues

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This loco is the same as the one from the Harry Potter & Shakespear sets.  It was also made available for separate sale in two different "Santa's Flyer" versions.  Anyone familiar with these locos can likely help Trainlover Joe

I have the Shakespeare version and can't say I've heard anything like that.

Is this click once per full rotation of the driving wheels?  There's a cam on the first driving axle that operates the smoke unit.  Try greasing that.  Otherwise, If you're ambitious, you could remove the shell and examine the smoke unit mechanism.

Aaron,

 

 jut that.  A friend had suggested that I remove the shell to see there was anything internally that was binding, when I took the shell however, is when I saw the lever going fro the cam to the smoke unit, and was not sure if I should grease this?

 

These was nothing in the owner's manual about greasing the main bearing cam.

 

I think it might try this. Do you think this would enough to to keep that front axles from turning?

 

JoeG

 

A tapping sound is probably not a lube issue.  Squeaking or grinding noises are indications of lack-of-lube.

 

Look at anything that moves on the engine, such as the side rods or the smoke plunger and make sure it isn't hitting anything.  Also check that the side rods are not bent and causing contact.

 

i don't know how the smoke unit works on that engine, but my postwar engines, such as my 621 turbine, makes a very audible tapping sound when the smoke unit lever contacts the smoke unit piston.  The tapping sound is absolutely normal on that engine.  If your smoke unit uses a fan to puff the smoke, then the tapping sound should not occur.

 

Another possibility is a foreign object in your engine contacting one of the moving parts. I had a Lionel Legacy Atlantic engine that had an extra connector lodged in the engine, presumably during manufacture. The engine ran perfectly fine until the warranty was up.  Then the foreign object shorted out one of the electronic modules and it cost me a little over $100 for the parts to repair the engine.

 

If possible, run the engine with the shell off and watch closely for anything unusual.

 

Good luck with your troubleshooting...

Earl

I have one of these and I must have bought the one made Friday at 5:00 PM. What a lemon. I have replaced two boards and a smoke unit. Saturday the gears started making a grinding noise..... I'll trade you my train for yours. BTW this has great sounds.

Scott Smith

Hi Scott,

 

Wow that is a lot to replace on this engine, which was not a cheap purchase to begin with. I was hoping that I would be able to run it for a while especially while having all of the matching passenger cars. Has Lionel been doing your repairs or do you have a favorite shop? Oh and no I do not want to trade.

 

Joeg

Plastic safe grease if its plastic.

 

 I've had worn/dry piston slap. Plastic ones on Generals got loudest.

Or if it has a spring on top of the air piston, it may have broken.

  

I had contacted Matt to ask him about sending my engine as Lionel was ridiculous,and he gave me a few tips.

 

So, before shipping it I decided to tear it down. I found the rear axle, had a shim that was reversed, causing it to bind. I put it back into position and greases the main screw thoroughly, as well as the cam that helps operate the smoke unit. I re-assembled and tested and it runs like a champ! Thanks Matt!!

 

JoeG

A short time ago, I picked up a recent Lionel 0-6-0 train set that had a problem with a bind in the mechanism. Posted about it here, and a few others said they had a similar problem.

It turned out that the smoke unit lever was trying to push the smoke unit piston up too high. Bending the smoke unit level very slightly resolved the problem.

 

Sounds like you may have a similar problem.