Lionel Lionmaster TMCC to ERR Cruise Commander M Upgrade Level of Effort

The CC-M is a simple install as a rule.  Since this is an Odyssey equipped locomotive, you do have to either do some contact shuffling of the contacts in the Molex plug or splice the supplied plug in.  The Odyssey DCDS has a 6-pin power/motor plug, the CC-M has a 4-pin power/motor plug.  You also have to run the single wire serial data to the R2LC.

Here's the Cruise Commander M Instruction Manual, check out the installation process, you're looking for the Odyssey section for the plug wiring.

The Super-Chuffer II will certainly fit in that locomotive, I've done much smaller stuff.  If you want a prototypical 4-chuff/rev, you could also consider the Chuff-Generator.

@gunrunnerjohn posted:

The CC-M is a simple install as a rule.  Since this is an Odyssey equipped locomotive, you do have to either do some contact shuffling of the contacts in the Molex plug or splice the supplied plug in.  The Odyssey DCDS has a 6-pin power/motor plug, the CC-M has a 4-pin power/motor plug.  You also have to run the single wire serial data to the R2LC.

Here's the Cruise Commander M Instruction Manual, check out the installation process, you're looking for the Odyssey section for the plug wiring.

The Super-Chuffer II will certainly fit in that locomotive, I've done much smaller stuff.  If you want a prototypical 4-chuff/rev, you could also consider the Chuff-Generator.

Thanks John, that helps a bunch.  Quick question, the super chuffer 2 synchronizes the smoke unit and then the chuff generator syncs the sound, is that the way it works?

Will the Cruise Commander M make that much of a difference, is it worth the cost and effort?

@ArtsModelTrains posted:

Thanks John, that helps a bunch.  Quick question, the super chuffer 2 synchronizes the smoke unit and then the chuff generator syncs the sound, is that the way it works?

Will the Cruise Commander M make that much of a difference, is it worth the cost and effort?

The difference the Cruise Commander M makes is kinda' up to individual tastes.  The big difference that will be noticeable is typically the low speed steps, you can start slower and accelerate smoother.  Once you're up to around 20-25 scale MPH, I personally don't see much difference between the Odyssey I and the CC-M.

The Super-Chuffer gives you the following features.

• Synchronized chuffing smoke
• Smoke at idle (when stopped)
• Rule-17 LED headlight control
• Automatic cab light control (off when moving)

You don't have to use the lighting features of the Super-Chuffer if you're not interested in those functions.

The Chuff-Generator is typically used to get 4-chuffs/rev of the drivers vs the 2-chuffs that most TMCC models have.   If you're really into fancy lighting, there is an optional output from the Chuff-Generator for ground lights, they turn off above around 10 scale MPH.