Lionel PPNL Shay 3 CYLINDER ENGINE ASSEMBLY Replacement.

@T1TITAN_ZACHF.....  what is the issue with the original one?  other than Lionel no place I have found to get the parts especially this main part.

StPaul posted:

@T1TITAN_ZACHF.....  what is the issue with the original one?  other than Lionel no place I have found to get the parts especially this main part.

The issue is that one of the drive gears inside the part shown above broke off the assembly, and is not able to be fixed. 

@T1TITAN ZACHF ....... can you possibly post a photo of your broken drive showing the area broken?

Was a source for this part ever found?  It is still listed as "unavailable" in Lionel's part list. I need it to fix my 2-truck Shay; otherwise, the Shay is just gathering dust.

What happened to it?Can you post a pic of the problem?

to bad this didn't use the 3 truck shays assembly as its available now.

most times it shows another place that says contact ? its on same page as the part number is for this posters shay.

would be nice if poster had said what was wrong with his!

My shay is currently in its box and is about to be shipped out, the problem is that the far right silver colored rod attached to the 3rd piston is repeatedly falling out of its socket , and when I put it back in it keeps falling out again. 

Might be a bit too short.

Can you sleeve the socket with some brass tubing?

The  problem with mine is that an internal fitting fell apart--can't describe the location on the part, but it may have been the same as the original poster's. It appeared to be a press fit. I tried to fix it but was so ham-handed that I damaged it further. It's now beyond fixing. The Shay still runs but with hesitations caused by the misaligned drive gear.

I may sell the Shay for parts if I can't fix it.

Update: 

After giving the shay to my local service center, they have confirmed that unless the part below comes available, the loco will not be able to get fixed. So with that said, this loco is at the mercy of a Lionel part, so if you know anyone who has a spare please let me know. 

I called Lionel again today and they said they will not have the part in unless they make another run of the 2 truck shays , as they ave been out of the part since 2015. 

S-W parts and Brasseur Electric trains do not have this part in stock. 

Thanks again,

this is a common problem with the Lionel Shays. We have fixed these often in the repair shop. Our fix is was drilling and pinning the shaft to the crank parts with brass wire. Never seen them come back. This a fix that requires patience.

Bruk posted:

this is a common problem with the Lionel Shays. We have fixed these often in the repair shop. Our fix is was drilling and pinning the shaft to the crank parts with brass wire. Never seen them come back. This a fix that requires patience.

Thanks for the help, is it possible for me to send this to your repair shop for the fixup?

@T1Titan_ZachF posted:

Bruk posted:

this is a common problem with the Lionel Shays. We have fixed these often in the repair shop. Our fix is was drilling and pinning the shaft to the crank parts with brass wire. Never seen them come back. This a fix that requires patience.

Thanks for the help, is it possible for me to send this to your repair shop for the fixup?

 

Yes you may, If you email me directly I can give you all information needed.

Bruk posted:

@T1Titan_ZachF posted:

Bruk posted:

this is a common problem with the Lionel Shays. We have fixed these often in the repair shop. Our fix is was drilling and pinning the shaft to the crank parts with brass wire. Never seen them come back. This a fix that requires patience.

Thanks for the help, is it possible for me to send this to your repair shop for the fixup?

 

Yes you may, If you email me directly I can give you all information needed.

Awesome!

Ahh, I've seen these before on HO locomotives as well. The cylinder engine assembly part on O gauge along with HO has to be made from light and cheap plastic so it's maluable to the company to make the piece, sadly not being made from high quality metal so it'll last longer. Not too many manufacturers supply the parts however I know of a repair shop for O gauge locomotives in Washington New Jersey in which the owner is very up to date on how to replace these peices, as he has done it many times before. 

Need some help; have a Lionel 6-28022 3 truck Shay; need to replace the front coupler and tune up the smoke unit; how to separate the chassis from the boiler?  Seem to recall it is not a lot of screws (3?) but need to find out which ones and location; thanks much for the help; Falcon70

PS Bruk, your RCMC diagrams have really helped me!

Got it out; two screws behind the front truck and one screw under the middle of the rear truck left side;three all day.  Falcon70