Lionel U.P. H-7 am I missing something?

Well no takers...

The next quesiton is did the Denver and Rio Grande purchase/incorporate any of these similar designs of the H-7 on their 2-8-8-2? Or is this closer to  Y-3 type? I am not sure if the class L-131 is unique in design.

Seems you could by the UP version and put D&RG decals on it and you would have a cool rendition of this locomotive.

Any thoughts?

J Daddy, I did find this.

During 1945 the Union Pacific also purchased 30 second-hand simple 2-8-8-2's from the Chesapeake and Ohio. 19 of these locomotives were built by Alco in 1924 and the other eleven by Baldwin in 1926. These locomotives were class H-7 on the C. & O. and with their 57" drivers were too slow and replaced by a 1930 group of forty, 69" drivered 2-10-4 Texas type locomotives. Being surplus power in 1945, the H-7's were available for purchase by the Union Pacific and renumbered to 3570-3599 series.

Eleven of the locomotives were rebuilt by the Union Pacific while the remaining 19 received only enough attention to keep them running. The 11 rebuilds were changed greatly in appearance and emerged from the shops looking like a cross between the 3500 series simple 2-8-8-0's and the 3800 series light 4-6-6-4's. While the rebuilt locomotives were an improvement, still the 2-8-8-2's were too slow for Wyoming Division service where they were assigned until being retired. The 2-8-8-2's were used singularly and double headed over "Sherman Hill" holding up all traffic behind them. When doubleheaded with the 4-6-6-4's and 4-8-8-4's they could not generate sufficient speed and were not successful as helpers. By the end of 1947 all of the 2-8-8-2's were retired.

Basic specifications for the 3570-3599 series simple 2-8-8-2's are shown in Table IX.

Thanks Gerry, this great information, what is interesting though, is that I cannot find any photos of the 19 un altered locomotives in U.P.

I love the two UP H7s I have (the second I renumbered 3591).  Whether prototypical or not they are great looking locomotives, big, powerful, and with all that equipment mounted on the front of the boiler, quite complicated and industrial in appearance.

Here is a brass model of the 3571.

3571 model

I don't have an H-7. Quit showing me H-7's. It hurts my feelings. I have a whole

bunch of big, black, beautiful steam locomotives, but no H-7, so I am deprived and

bereft. Woe is me. We're all crazy.

Yes, Lionel's model is prototypical and excellent.

I did not realize that some of the UP H-7's were modified so much in appearance from

their C&O days. Interesting.

The UP Class system that gave us the "FEF-3" ("Four-Eight-Four") and the "TTT"

2-10-2's was not always used by the UP, so far as I know. That would have made the

Challenger Class "FSSF", and I've never seen that. Cool, though. 

Per the DRGW 2-8-8-2 question: no, not the same loco; they just favor a bit. Some

of the same appliances. 

Here's an unmodified one in UP dress:

Image: Smoke Over The Divide  E&G Publications c. 1965

Rusty

Thanks Rusty, where did you find that photo?

I may not be able to afford the new Legacy version, but I am hoping that a TMCC version will pop up on the cheap.

It's from the book "Smoke Over The Divide,"  by James L. Ehernberger and Francis G. Gschwind, probably long out of print.  It was part of a "Smoke Over..." series of UP photo books in published the middle 1960's. 

I think I paid around 9 bucks for it way back when.

Rusty

Thanks Rusty I am going to keep my eyes open for it.