LNL MILW S-3 TENDER REAR, Please Check!

I have the 267, no cab no. on the rear of the tender. Just the water and coal capacity numbers.

These engines were built in 1943 and repainted any number of times. It is entirely possible that it's prototypically correct either with or without the number on the back of the tender, depending on when you take a snapshot.

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Originally posted by RWDeano:
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Not that this proves anything definitive, Green Bay, late 1960's:



But, I'd be willing to bet the old girl hadn't been given a coat of paint since her arrival.

Rusty

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Originally posted by J Daddy:
I have the 267, no cab no. on the rear of the tender. Just the water and coal capacity numbers.

I would think your bigger concern would be that #267 was an oil burner, and should have an oil tender and no ash pans on the sides of the firebox.

They were all built as coal burners, 267 and a couple of others were converted. I forget how long they were in service burning coal, but the coal tender is legit (of course, it doesn't match some of the detailing, which is of 261 as it is now). That said, I sure wish Lionel had offered an oil tender with 267.

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Originally posted by Hot Water:

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Originally posted by J Daddy:
I have the 267, no cab no. on the rear of the tender. Just the water and coal capacity numbers.

I would think your bigger concern would be that #267 was an oil burner, and should have an oil tender and no ash pans on the sides of the firebox.

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Ever stop to think how difficult it is to find photos of the rear end of tenders? Sometimes you see a shot that would show whether there is a number there or not but the engine is coupled to cars and you can't really see the back of the tender. I must have looked at several hundred locomotive photos, by way of answering Deano's question, and only found two or three that showed the right angle. (And on those photos, as I mentioned, there was no road number back there.)

Regarding the discussion of the correct tender for the #267, this particular model SHOULD have an oil tank tender and no ash pan. Yes the engine was built as a coal burner, but it's conversion to oil occurred either after the front end was modified with the later style smoke box door, or was made at the same time. To show the engine as it's earlier coal burner configuration would require that it had the original front end, as built, instead of the later modification.

Paul Fischer

Oh, those of us who paint and letter steamers often curse the photographers who seem to know only
one camera angle: front, three-quarter. It actually can get boring! So many good shots were missed. My two rail fan photographer friends are always hearing me ask: "did you shoot the rear?" Diesel or not, the front
is not the rear.

I find it notable that the CMStP&P did not put loco numbers on the rear of their tenders. I learned something
new today. Why would they not? The added expense, after everything else, was negligible. Never heard of that
on a Class-1.

Yes the engine was built as a coal burner, but it's conversion to oil occurred either after the front end was modified with the later style smoke box door, or was made at the same time. To show the engine as it's earlier coal burner configuration would require that it had the original front end, as built, instead of the later modification.

Paul Fischer[/QUOTE]

I really think we are splitting hairs on this one. I think the 267 looks great in its current configuration, there may or may not have been some overlap there.

besides if you squint one eye and close the other the cab no. 267 looks like a 261

I just received notice that my #265 is in; when I pick it up this weekend I will let you know if the number is there on the rear.

As it turns out I never picked up the #265! However, as established,  the #261 I recently won on eBay does not have any tender butt number.