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I posted this in the MTH forum but got no responses so I've reposted it here. I've noticed in the last few years that MTH has stopped advertising the use of Pittman motors in their Premier Line steam locomotives. The catalogs just say "precision 7 pole flywheel equipped motor". If MTH is no longer using Pittman motors in their Premier steam locomotives what are they using? Have they switched to the Cannon motor that Lionel is now using? All my Premier steam are older and have the 9434 Pittman motors and they run very, very well. I'm curious what motor MTH is currently using in their larger Premier steam locomotives.

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I can tell you what the main repair guy at mth told me that they were no longer getting the Pittman motors! so if you have a proto one steam engine and need  a new motor good luck. there is one guy on the forum that rebuilds motors if you need a old one repaired, other then that your SOL! The 9434 Pittman motors are no longer available!  

 

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harmonyards posted:

Alan, I believe Lou ( and myself included) are more interested as to what MTH is using in their Premier big steam, as opposed to getting one fixed....do you know? ....Pat

Yup. I don't need any of my stuff repaired, I'd just like to know what motor MTH is currently using in their large steam locomotives. Apparently it's not Pittman motors. Anyone know what they are using in place of Pittmans?

The sky is not falling.  This is an industrial product.  There are TONS of Pittman 9434 motors for sale on popular auction sites.  Lionel probably has many in stock, since they also used them for about eight years.  Pittman's own website (Hayden Kerk Pittman) still shows specs for a 9234 motor which is electrically identical, except that it has wire leads instead of blade terminals for the brushes.  Considering all the hard-to-obtain parts, a failed Pittman motor won't sideline an MTH loco 50 years from now.  More likely it'll be worn out rubber tires   As long as the worm gear isn't pressed onto the motor shaft (which was never the case with large Premier steam locos) you can buy a Pittman motor and install it yourself.

That brings me to the next point.  With today's locos everything is integrated.  I don't necessarily like this approach, but the motor, the gear ratio, and the electronics are (hopefully) optimized to work together.  Some folks have alleged that Pittman motors are a bit fussy and don't play well with all types of electronic speed control.  So if this isn't a crisis, it could be an opportunity.  

All that being said, your point is valid.  The manufacturers should list (1) the type of motor being used, (2) the gear ratio, and (3) whether the gears are self-locking or back-drivable.  If you look at a Lobaugh, Max Gray, or US Hobbies catalog from the '40s, '50s, and '60s, all of these specifications were clearly stated.  And with those locos, if you didn't like the stock setup you could obtain a different gearbox from the manufacturer and install it yourself.  We're not so lucky!  So what are they hiding?  What are they ashamed of??  My wallet wants to know!

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