Arriving on track 1..Weaver PRR passenger sharks...pics!

Alan,

That is a mighty nice looking AB pair.  How long are those Sharks?

Thanks James...they are almost 40 inches long when paired together...

Alan

Yes, there are two motors in the A-unit. with and EOB drive system.  There are sets where the B-units are also powered, via Weaver in house, I believe.  

That is a very nice weathering job.  Thanks for posting the pictures, and congratulation on an exceptional acquisition.     Mike CT  

nice pick up!!!

Alan, just curious; is your B-unit powered?

Very nice addition to your HUGE fleet. I am curious, are these the slightly weathered set you had previously referred to? Could not tell from the photos which were very good.

Hi Alan, congrats on finding those beauties.  I have an A-B set of freight sharks RF16's by MTH Premier, which are shorter.  As a kid, the sharks going by were frequent and ominous looking beasts, as I recall.  I never, or don't recall tuscan passenger sharks, cause I'm sure they'd of made an impression.  Prototypically, they must have been lengthier than the freights?  Thanks for posting the pics, and enjoy!

Rich

Congrats. Nice BP-20 acquisition. These are on my list as well. It has been my experience that with a bit of patience (that I learned doing S scale for a while) I can usually find what I want for the price I want to pay. Enjoy!

The look great, a PRR shark set is on my shopping list at some time in the future.

Thanks guys!!  I am really looking forward to these arriving on the property.  To be honest, I had to make a sacrifice to get them...no food for a couple of months but I need to go on a diet anyway!!

The B-unit is unpowered as these were the first release.

Brian...sorry I missed your call yesterday.  I am on floor duty in about a half hour so I will try to get to you this weekend.  These are in fact the weathered units I was speaking to you about and are from the forumite that bought your NYC passenger set.

Thanks,

Alan

CONGRATS!!! What a fantastic looking set! I wish we would get a WbB level set some day.....but bet you did the right thing tracking down your set!!! Thanks for the pics.

Yes, they were!  I lived on the PRR main line when I was a kid, and I used to watch the Sharks rumbling and growling by at the edge of town, with their long, long coal drags.  With their looming dark snouts and gyrating Mars lights, they looked like giant alien centipedes, not to be trifled with.

Hi Alan,

Wow those are beautiful and huge!!!!!!!!. Enjoy them

Thanks,

Alex

What a pair! Those babies demand some attention.

Congrats.

Thanks guys....I am so excited about these locomotives since I have been wanting them for quite a while.  The seller says he will be shipping them out to me tomorrow...can't wait!!

Alan

Alan,

I think that you will really be happy with these.  The nice weathering job and brass detail on them really makes them look realistic and unique.  I kind of wish that I could have found room in my collection to keep them but I have many other PRR passenger locomotives.  So, my loss is your gain.  They are all boxed up and ready to go!  Enjoy!

Thanks James...I didn't know if you wanted me to mention you specifically so I didn't...but I am glad you chimed in.  So that you all know, James posted on my original thread that I started last year during my quest to find these units.  In fact I believe he posted several times and was the one that said that if I was patient enough, I would find a set. 

Alan

Boy oh Boy!!...James emailed me late this afternoon and confirmed that the locomotives are in the hands of FedEx and should be here by the end of next week...probably Friday.  Sure hope I don't get that guy we all saw that launched packages over fences!!

I have never looked more forward to getting a train item....these are going to be the crown jewels!!

Alan

These BP20 Sharks are really extraordinary.  A special thanks to Neal Schorr for contacting Weaver and working to get them made.

Norm

Interesting to note that the Pennsy had (18 A units and 9 B units). A lot of mechanical trouble, they never really worked well.

Wikipedia clip on the Baldwin DR-6. with (2) 606SC diesel engines.  

Thanks again guys....I had no idea that Neal was involved!!..WOW!!  Sure would like to see them running on his layout.  I wonder if he ordered the weathered versions or weathered them himself...??

Alan

A quick update...just because I am excited.....my sharks will be arriving tomorrow!!  Hurray...!!  I will try to snap a few photos of them in the passenger yard and post them here...

Alan

Well guys...it was a disappointing outcome on the purchase of the sharks....I can't elaborate here but for those that might want to know the details, I will share them with you privately.  Looks like I will be making a claim in the next day or two...

Alan

I have been looking for these too. 

Not sure what making a claim means. But it sounds like you are passing on them so are they still for sale?

Can you put me in touch with the seller?

What happened, Alan?

Nope...they are not for sale.  I have them.  I had several folks contact me about them since I had not given an update.  A couple of problems came up that are being worked out and hopefully all will be well.  I don't want to go into detail here since that is not appropriate so I will respond to PE...

Thanks,

Alan

Alan, this is a beautiful set of Engines. They will look great on Your Beautiful Railroad.

Thanks for posting them on the Forum.

Very sorry to read all did not go well on these. Hope it gets sorted out well for everyone in the end.

Best,

Jason

They are made of brass. If it's the body that was damaged, can't it just be straightened out?

Here are the real McCoys taken by myself many many years ago.

Enjoy

Lew Schneider

looks like this pic is an rf16 not a BP20 as being discussed here....

Nice pics though!

Absolutely correct, but someone up the string was remembering Sharks at night hauling coal drags.

Lew Schneider

OK...here is the update or at least what I feel I can post here on the forum.  Shipping delicate brass locomotives across country is not something that I would want to do normally but in this case there was no choice.  FedEx was the chosen carrier and I have to tell you that I must have gotten that guy we all saw on TV throwing packages!!  While the outer carton was not breached, it was obvious that at least the end had been "stressed".  When I opened the package and then opened the locomotive box the first thing I saw unwrapping the B-unit was that quite a few of the brass grills along the top were broken loose with one being completely broken and inside the car body.  All of the builder's plates were broken off with two of them missing.  In addition, when I put the A-unit on the track, there was no sound and erratic operation.  I just couldn't get the unit to respond properly to the controller. Fortunately, there was no paint damage or body damage.

Needless to say, this caused a lot of stress for both me and the seller.  I called Weaver on Monday to see if they could help and Gary talked with me and instructed me on what to look for and what to do to the boards before we made a decision on what to do.  I decided that I could repair the grills on the B-unit so I took the body off and put the grills back in place then used hot glue to make sure they stayed put.  Worked like a charm.  Tonight, I took off the A-unit body and immediately saw what the problem was....every board in the unit was loose or completely unplugged!!  These babies really had a rough ride!!  I don't know how hard you have to bounce a box around to unplug everything but whatever happened, it was an easy fix.  I simply plugged everything back in and tested the unit.  It came to life!!  Everything seemed to be working just fine so I put the A-unit body back on and connected both units together and ALL IS WELL!! 

The only thing I need now is the two different builder's plates and everything will be back to normal.  Weaver doesn't have both of them so I need to figure out where I can find a set that matches the plates on the other side.

I will post some pictures soon...

Thanks!

Alan

There are (4), one, of each on either side of the A unit. There are (2) on the B-unit.


B-unit  (1) on either side.


The builders plates appear to be missing in this photo you posted.

Probably stolen by some nefarious O-scale rail fan! d4rn foamers!

These are sweet looking; I see Lionel is now offering matching PRR weathered RF16s. 

Too bad we can't send our existing units there for weathering!

Thanks,

Mario

Glad it all worked out in the end, they are great looking engines.

I think I'll keep using USPS, they're cheaper and I don't get that kind of service as a rule!

I'm sorry for your troubles but am glad that's everything's working.  Looking forward to the pics of them on your wonderful layout.

Glad it has worked out ok in the end. I would not use Fedex to ship an anvil. They would tear it up for sure. I still like the good old USPO, or UPS. No more Fedex for me, too many bad experiences with them to share here.

Jeff

This was on the news this morning. Just be glad it wasn't on this truck.

FedEx