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The photo below shows my Vacuum Cleaner Car 2.0. Most forum members will understand what I’ve done and what was involved, as soon as they study the photo.  I’ve mounted a rechargeable hand-held vacuum cleaner on a 14-inch flatcar so that it sucks up material from the track.

A New One Because I Wore Out the Old One

I made my first vacuum cleaner car fifteen years ago (the guts of a Dustbuster mounted on a custom-built chassis) and posted about it here seven years ago. 

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Vacuum Cleaner car 1.0 turned out to be much more useful than I expected. I ran it at about once a month for years, and although I take care of my layout  and often would use a shop vac to keep it “dust-free,” that car would always come back after a few times around my track with more “crud” in its bin than I would have thought possible.

A Quick Look At Commercially Available Vacuum Cleaner Cars for N and HO

Atlas makes a really nice vacuum cleaner car in N, shown below left, and offers the same design scaled up for HO scale, too.  I had an N-Gauge one like that years ago when I had a full nest and could only fit a small N-scale layout in the house while raising three boys.  It always came back after a brief run with a surprising amount of stuff it found to suck up.  Atlas’s vacuum cleaner cars are marketed under the brand names Atlas, Dapol, and Tomix.  Atlas announced ten or more years ago it was scaling the design up to O scale, but never did that and stopped talking about it on their website about eight years ago.  I found out why and will get to that in a moment.

There are also one or two less expensive vacuum cleaner cars like TrackVac sold for HO (above right).  It looks to be a very tiny “desktop vacuum” converted to run on HO trucks.  I don’t have experience with it, but I imagine it works although probably not as well as the Atlas/Dapol/Tomix vacuum cars which cost three times as much.   I found a few of these offered for O-scale too: someone working in their garage mounting small desktop vacuums on small inspective flatcars and selling them via e-bay, etc.   They may work but I suspect not nearly as well as I need . . .

The First Point to Keep In Mind:  You Can’t Power A Good O-Gauge Vacuum Car From The Track

Atlas and most other N and HO and the small O-Gauge vac-cars I looked at get the power to run their vacuum motor from the track.  The Atas N and HO vac-cars work well, drawing about .6 and 1.75 amps respectively at 12 to 14 volts to run their motors.  But powering the vacuum from the track really won’t work well with O-Gauge, and this has nothing to do with the fact that O-Gauge uses AC rather than DC power (you could easily install a rectifier to get around that problem). 

Rather, “the problem” is the amount of power a track-powered O-Gauge vacuum cleaner car needs to clean O-Gauge track well.  It needs about 10 Amps.  O-Gauge track is twice as wide as HO, so you might think that a vacuum needed only twice the power of HO to do a good job.  But scale O-gauge track is twice as deep, too – and hi-rail track, as most of us on this forum have, is more than twice as deep.  So an O-Gauge vacuum cleaner car running at around 12 to 14 volt is going to need something close to four to six times what is required in HO to do a really superb job – around 10 amps at 12 to 14 volts. That means you could run it off track power, but there would be nothing left to power the loco within the typical 10-amp power supply limit. 

Coincidently, almost all the rechargeable hand-held vacuums you can buy are 12V and 120 watts – they want 10 amps at 12 volts.  They have a wall wart to plug in and power them or recharge them from a wall outlet but they are all designed so they will work from a car’s cigarette-lighter auxiliary power outlet, which means they are designed to use 10 amps (just within the cars fuse or breaker limit), at 12 volts.

So, I recommend buying a compact rechargeable handheld and just mounting it on a flatcar, keeping its battery and using it as a rechargeable rather than removing the battery and installing a rectifier on a car with electrical pickups.  It’s less work too: just buy one that will fit well on a flatcar  -  a long, thin one seems best.  I bought a brand called MooSoo because it looked like it was small in diameter and would fit through my tunnels and such (it does), but there are many to choose from. 

Second Point to Keep In Mind: Build the Car So It Holds Both the Vacuum and its Charger. 

Otherwise it is too easy to put the charger somewhere else after you have used the vacuum and forget where it is the next time you need to clean up the track.  (You can guess how I discovered this).

Anyway, this vacuum cleaner car is really useful.  I wore out vacuum cleaner car 1.0 after about twelve years of use, and have had Vacuum Cleaner car 2.0 for about a year now.  I recently used if after I thought I had cleaned up well with a shop vac, when I finally had completed rebuilding my country road with all the mess that created - tearing up the scenery, installing the road, sanding and sealing and resanding the road surface, reinstalling scenery and grass and bushes, etc..  It caused a huge dusty mess but I cleaned up well with a shop vac afterward.

In this latest use, as you see it below, I ran the my vacuum cleaner car after I shop-vacced the layout, and ran to loco backwards so the vacuum picked up any debris before it might have a chance to get caught in the loco’s wheels, etc.  I had to empty its bin twice before it would finally come back with nothing new in it, even though I had vaccuumed the layout with that shop vac.  A vacuum cleaner car just gets to places that aren't easy to get at with the shop vac and gets down and close to the track.  And it is easy and convenient to run.  I'm glad I have it. 

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I couldn't find the right car to hold the vacuum so I made one from 1/4" thick Acrylic. It about 18-1/2 inches long; cut on a Glowforge.

The car design allows the vacuum unit to be lifted in and out of the car as it just sits in the opening. Like you did, I added a place for the charger and wiring and also added a notch for the nozzle attachment.

The two living hinges shown below fit into the curved slots around the existing vacuum nozzle and direct the vacuum up from the track surfaces. The small holes front and back are for the trucks.

I tried to add the small brush assembly but couldn't find a way to. Also I did not need to cut off the coupler from either trucks. I may add some lighting at some point.

Thanks  Lee

Attached is the .svg file for the car. The green area is engraved to fit the charger plug.

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Last edited by AlanRail

LEE: Any chance I could commission you to custom build a G gauge version that would run off DC power? OR a referral for a commercially available one for G gauge? LGB locos notoriously shed carbon dust and the contact "sliders" shed brass dust from the rails! REALLY need a vacuum car as doing it manually is both tedious and cumbersome! THANK YOU for consideration of my request! :-)

Last edited by Tinplate Art

CurtisH, you are correct. I skimmed the whole thread very quickly, when I went back and looked later on I saw MartyE's post. However, if we're splitting hairs, Marty said the "whole project", I was just pointing out that the "car" sucked! LOL

In all seriousness, great job Lee! a lot of engineering time in this one. I wish I had your kind of time!

Mike

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Mike

Trust me I would NEVER go against you. As I typed my response I thought :He is going to come back with whole vs car". You never disappoint. LOL But YOU are correct! Again. Was glad to see you responded. Maybe you should think about going back to Lionel to straighten things out! Just Kidding. I know you are happy where you are and if I might say so I love the products you guys are coming out with. I actually am thinking about one of the latest ones because it fits my $$$ Bracket.

Curtis

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