Newbie asks: Can you use Protosounds 1.0 for just sounds with ERR AC Commander?

Read this https://ogrforum.com/...-direct-plug-in-tmcc

Ideally what you need is that board- a Digital Dynamics Equalizer board.  They were designed to be a drop-in replacement for the standard MTH bottom board.

Another related topic- Ps1 to TMCC w/Cruise

https://ogrforum.com/...ps1-to-tmcc-w-cruise

@Vernon Barry posted:

Ideally what you need is that board- a Digital Dynamics Equalizer board.

THANK YOU!

Now I just have to find one!

Why does it always seem that the products you need the most are all out of production/stock? 

We had extensive discussions about this in the past.  Let's just wrap up by saying it ain't gonna' happen!   There is no currently available product to do this, and I know of no entity that is contemplating building one.  The engineering would be significant and the return on investment would be small.

Jeff. such a shame, the Digital Dynamics Equalizer board and the Train America Studio's UCUB board was the end of the line for PS-1.  In some cases that was the only way to get the proper sound set for many PS-1 locomotives. Both companies  are long gone likely never to return. However those boards are still around and turn up on the famous auction site from time to time and sometime here on the O Gauge Forum. You still have to be willing to give up Cruise  Control, as neither board has it. Or use ERR and some generic sounds. Same goes for PS-2 and 3 boards you might have to settle for sounds which are not quite right. But you will have Cruise.      j

@Homey B posted:

Why does it always seem that the products you need the most are all out of production/stock? 

Because a long time back the market determined that, although they seemed to be a good idea at the time, no one really wanted them badly enough, and production was subsequently shut down.   Then in that 'aha!' moment, you suddenly figured out that you did.

Happens to me all the time.

I think maybe we need to clean our crystal balls.

Mike

So, let's ask this a different way, because I do not know all that much about the PS1 system...

Can I install a TMCC-like control board for the motor, move the couplers and whatever from the PS1 control card, and then leave the sounds portion of RS1 alone, somehow to figure out what to sound like and when?  I accept the loss of coupler sounds.  I understand that I lose whatever "chatter" there may be.  I just want to get the sound of the prime mover, horn and bell - nothing else. I'm concerned that this is too tightly integrated into their electronic E-Unit, so that if I don't have it driving the motors, it can't tell what's really going on...

Just trying to get creative here...

Jeff, I really think you're tilting at windmills here.  This topic has been beat to death several times, and there's no practical and/or easy to make this happen.

My advice is to cut your losses and consider a PS/3 upgrade.  You can choose from a wide variety of prime movers, horns, and bells.  I suspect you can find something that pleases your palate and doesn't drive you crazy trying to hack it into submission!

@gunrunnerjohn posted:

My advice is to cut your losses and consider a PS/3 upgrade. You can choose from a wide variety of prime movers, horns, and bells.  I suspect you can find something that pleases your palate and doesn't drive you crazy trying to hack it into submission!

Bet he would have to spring for a ProtoSound control system. Not cheap !          j

@JohnActon posted:

Bet he would have to spring for a ProtoSound control system. Not cheap !          j

However, the initial query was about doing a TMCC upgrade and adding the PS?1 sounds.  Since the TMCC upgrade, say the Cruise Commander or AC Commander alone is $160, close to the price of the PS/3 kit.  Nothing is cheap nowadays, you know that.

Jeff , you could get idle sounds out of the ps1 board  but with a constant 18vAC on the track no prime mover ramp up sound no whistle or bell and no couplers.          j