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Originally Posted by Martin H:

       
Nice pics, Erik.  Whenever I see these, they are always unpainted.  Did OMI or anyone else try to paint them prototypically?  How much would a 10-car string of these set someone back?

       


Some of these were "custom paint for OMI" most were unpainted. Overland hired many custom painters in the 1980's 1990's.

Cost it would seem they sell for $300-$400 range today. Roger Lewis has a full consist some 30 or more of these; his biggest exclamation is he can't pull them!! Too heavy. He has always talked about importing "ball bearing" trucks for them like his passenger car trucks another $75-$150 per car. These are so far outside my era it's a no issue thank god. Some of these guys can easily spend $17-$25K for a full consist with power these days.
Last edited by Erik C Lindgren
Technically not freight however they are freight - depends How you look at it.

Pecos River Brass ATSF Horse Express

Although not a purpose built car Horse Express cars were consider "special" and could and often accommodated automobiles.

How about some new 1952 Fords anyone? Or Model A?


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Sunset Horse Express PRR prototype
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Last edited by Erik C Lindgren
Originally Posted by Erik C Lindgren:
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Cost it would seem they sell for $300-$400 range today. Roger Lewis has a full consist some 30 or more of these; his biggest exclamation is he can't pull them!! Too heavy. He has always talked about importing "ball bearing" trucks for them like his passenger car trucks another $75-$150 per car. These are so far outside my era it's a no issue thank god. Some of these guys can easily spend $17-$25K for a full consist with power these days.

No wonder you never see them for sale.

 

As for the trucks, Norm Burkhart imported 70T and 100T OCS ball bearing roller bearing trucks about 5 years ago in both O Scale and P48 and sold them for about $65/pair.  He still has a few 70T O scale left but all the 100T and P48 trucks are sold out and several folks are bugging him about importing another run.  OBTW, 70T would almost be correct for Autoracks except many of them sit so low they use 28" wheels which only NWSL makes.

Martin H posted:

Nice pics, Erik.  Whenever I see these, they are always unpainted.  Did OMI or anyone else try to paint them prototypically?  How much would a 10-car string of these set someone back?

When Overland imported these cars they were all unpainted, a well known custom painter [who had actually done a lot of work for Overland] did one for a dealer and told him not to bring any more as they were too much work to do a high quality paint job on without the paintwork exceeding the cost of the car.just saying!

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