I know Lionel made Pennsylvania and Lionel Lines tenders, and special tenders for the N&W 746 and such, but did they release a more "generic" NYC tender, say something like this or is this a post-postwar fantasy reproduction:
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I know Lionel made Pennsylvania and Lionel Lines tenders, and special tenders for the N&W 746 and such, but did they release a more "generic" NYC tender, say something like this or is this a post-postwar fantasy reproduction:
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This looks like a 773W tender shell. Let's see the inside.
Or a MPC 8206 tender shell.
This looks like a 773W tender shell. Let's see the inside.
ADCX Rob,
It's not my shell, just an image of one I crossed while browsing the web and was surprised to see it. I then was able to find a few more images of similar ones thus sparking my question.
https://www.google.com/search?...ce=lnms&tbm=isch
Judging by the sheen I would say 773 shell also but Williams also made one for their Golden Memories 2056.
Pete
There was a thread on tender shells not all that long ago.
Postwar Lionel 773-117 NYC tender shells were painted and heat stamped.
MPC appears to have taken some unpainted, left over postwar shells, and stamped them with close spaced New York Central lettering.
Later MPC made more shells that were available for separate sale in New York Central, Pennsylvania, and Lionel Lines. These shells were painted and heat stamped. They have a baffle and 2 posts molded inside. The baffle and posts have to be cut away to use the shells with a postwar whistling mechanism.
here is the thread
Could be an MPC tender from about 1971as noted in the previous post. I had one that came with locomotive #8206.
So just for clarification:
The 60's 773 engine was released with the new 773W tender, a NYC streamlined tender. The initial 773 locomotive was released with the more desireable and fancy 12 wheel diecast Lionel Lines 2426W. Do the 773W, 2046W, 2671W share the same shell casting? If I want a genuine NYC Tender from the postwar period, my only option is a 773W.
Just like Lionel to put NYC on a Pennsy prototype tender and run NYC type tenders behind Pennsy locomotives. They are just toys, right?
Hey RoyBoy, that's why I have a '64 773 Hudson in my PRR by Lionel collection. A NYC engine coupled with a PRR tender lettered Pennsylvania. Go figure.
bmoran4 posted:So just for clarification:
The 60's 773 engine was released with the new 773W tender, a NYC streamlined tender. The initial 773 locomotive was released with the more desireable and fancy 12 wheel diecast Lionel Lines 2426W. Do the 773W, 2046W, 2671W share the same shell casting? If I want a genuine NYC Tender from the postwar period, my only option is a 773W.
The 1950 version of the 773 had the 2426W diecast metal tender.
The 1964-66 version had the plastic tender. The 773W, 2046W amd 2671W all use the same basic shell, but there are variations in the castings and there are fairly good reproductions out there.
For example, the correct 773-117 tender shell should have an oval shaped blank number board on it's side. Not certain about the other details, such as the area around the ladder on the rear, and which shells have open versus closed backup lights. I'd have to get out a reference book for other casting changes.
C W Burfle posted:The 1964-66 version had the plastic tender. The 773W, 2046W amd 2671W all use the same basic shell, but there are variations in the castings and there are fairly good reproductions out there.
For example, the correct 773-117 tender shell should have an oval shaped blank number board on it's side. Not certain about the other details, such as the area around the ladder on the rear, and which shells have open versus closed backup lights. I'd have to get out a reference book for other casting changes.
I'd be interested in the information or sources for information. I hope it includes information around RMT and other reproductions, the 2671W-6 stamp, and other things I probably don't even know:
The 2671-6 on the rear of the shell was added in the MPC era, starting with the 8206 4-6-4 in '72.
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