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One thing that has puzzled me when looking at pictures of the NYC Dreyfuss Hudson, is when looking at the front of the engine, there is a rectangular plate with 2 holes in it, just below and to the left (facing engine) of the NYC System oval plate (see photo). It is also on the front of the NYC ESE engines.

 

My MTH Premier Dreyfuss Hudson does not have this, but my Lionel NYC ESE engine does. The Lionel version of the Dreyfuss Hudson has it also.

 

I think I have finally figured it out, but I thought I would ask some of the experts here on the forum, if any of you know what it is.

 

Here is a picture of #5451 taken in 1940 that clearly shows the plate and 2 holes. Also note on the left side streamlined cover plate (facing engine), there have been 2 grab handles added.

 

#5451 Photo 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Gee...you guys give up too easy.

 

It's an example of a very simple but very ingenious design.

 

The rectangular plate with the 2 holes is the front end of a retractable foot rest. You just grabbed it by the 2 holes and slid it out. The maintenance people then used it to stand on while adjusting or replacing the headlight.

 

There were also hand grips that could be inserted in the openings for the screws that held the fins together. These were used for support while standing on the foot rest.

 

My guess is that these hand grips were a pain to install and remove while stand on the foot rest. They probably were lost over time also.

 

I would assume that is why the 2 grab handles were added to #5451 in the photo I posted, so they wouldn't need the hand grips.

 

 

 

Hot Water,

 

Look at the posted photo at the beginning of this thread.  It shows this object very clearly.

 

To me it is an access hatch for one to be able to access the shut off valves for the 2 hose lines next to the coupler that one can plainly see in another photo in this thread of an unstreamlined Hudson.  One would place his fingers in the 2 holes and pull outward to open the hatch.  Or perhaps if it is not an openable hatch, reach inside the cowling through the 2 holes with a specially fabricated rod to reach the shutoff valves.

 

Steve

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