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Alright PS3 experts:

I've have a sample MTH Burlington Northern E8 ABA Railking set that I do not believe ever made it to production (at least not that I can find).  Got it from the MTH warehouse auction a couple years ago.

It was originally shipped with PS2, but I honestly don't recall if it was 3V or 5V version, and I don't know that it really matters at this point.  I ripped out the PS2 guts back when I bought it to install in one of my other "more interesting" PS1 locos and the gutted BN Hockey Stick E units sat as shelf queens.

Now, I've got a PS32 stacker that I installed and wired up, but I'm not ready to put power to it for a couple reasons.  Hoping you guys have some insight.

  1. I know the PS32 stackers are configured to run the PS2 incandescent headlights, however, the headlights in these units are the large-bulb "spade" type bulbs, not the smaller "grain of wheat" or "Christmas light" type incandescent lights.  I don't know if this is normal for a PS2 engine, and I want to make sure that these headlights weren't intended to run off track power (since they look like a standard 12-18V AC bulb) and that it's OK to connect these to the P5V pins on the PS32 stacker (the bulbs won't draw too much current and ruin the board).  Photo attached to show what I mean.  I wasn't smart enough to take a photo before I pulled the old board, and the lack of a connector on the headlight base made me pause.  Although the bulb is mounted in the plastic insulating base and no part of the bulb socket touches frame ground. So I *think* it goes to the headlight output on the board, right?

  2. Since this isn't a production model, there's no way to find a specific sound file.  I installed a smoke unit (not originally on the unit) and I would like to make use of it, so I'm assuming I should download a Premier version PS3.0 Sound file so that I can use the smoke (large smoke, 2 resistors).  So I am thinking I can grab the file for the Premier METRA E-8 set (especially since this is going to pull my Metra gallery cars).  Example: p142_f_h9_833__wm_150707aupd-cnsmr.

    Is there a problem with using a premier sound file for what was originally a Railking Model?  I assume that it just means the extra light outputs are activated but since they're not wired to anything then nothing happens?  Or does the PS32 card expect to see those lights, and if it activates those pinouts without a light present it could cause problems?  Best I can tell, the Railking E8 sound files don't incorporate smoke.

  3. There are two connectors on the top board of the PS32 that I don't think go to anything.  Shown in image below as "1" and "2".  I assume "1" is used for connecting A-unit PS3.0 slaves, and the one labeled "2" is the shunt for DCC operation that is normally on the PS3 board?  So I just leave these blank?

  4. The trailing A unit is non-powered, but it does have a rearlight and a rear coupler. If I run this configuration without the trailing A-unit, do I have to worry about the problem with firing the rear coupler on the board without a coupler attached and blow up the card?  Or does the PS32 Stacker deal with that differently?

  5. The speaker that's installed is an 8 ohm 3W speaker...I understand that the upgrade recommends a 4 ohm speaker.  Am I correct that I can use a speaker with higher resistance (with the consequence being less volume / power) without a problem?  I never turn these up anyway. As long as I don't use a LOWER resistance speaker it won't overdrive the amp.  Correct?



Thanks for all your help.

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Important notes- you can use the sound file ending in .mth, but do not use the entire zip with chain files for a normal non stacker PS3 board. If using stacker- you can ONLY use stacker compatible chain file types. The sound file does not contain a smoke unit size setting. Again flash only stacker chain files. Load only the .mth sound file of another PS3 engine (you may have to unzip the download to see the  .mth file). https://mthtrains.com/chainfiles

"There are two connectors on the top board of the PS32 that I don't think go to anything.  Shown in image below as "1" and "2".  I assume "1" is used for connecting A-unit PS3.0 slaves, and the one labeled "2" is the shunt for DCC operation that is normally on the PS3 board?  So I just leave these blank?" Yes, leave both of these blank.

MTH does use 6V bayonet bulbs and as long as that front bulb socket is fully isolated from frame, you can use a 6V bulb connected to the headlight output.

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Sorry, should have answered this too:

"Is there a problem with using a premier sound file for what was originally a Railking Model?  I assume that it just means the extra light outputs are activated but since they're not wired to anything then nothing happens?  Or does the PS32 card expect to see those lights, and if it activates those pinouts without a light present it could cause problems?  Best I can tell, the Railking E8 sound files don't incorporate smoke."

You can always use premier sound files or railking on stacker or PS3 upgrades. Stacker has up to 4mb storage just like normal PS3. Don't worry about the extra lights- they do not have to be connected.

To recap- the chain files determine smoke unit size. Only use stacker compatible chain files with stacker.

O Gauge Diesel with Smoke - Use this file (PS32_Diesel_Osmk_3528-CPF.zip) for your O Gauge diesel locomotives equipped with  (Normal- AKA Large) smoke. https://mthtrains.com/sites/de...el_Osmk_3528-CPF.zip

Awesome guys, thanks!

@Vernon Barry yes I was aware that I have to use the "Diesel Normal Smoke" chain file specific to the PS32 boards.  Already downloaded.

I flash the PS32 chain file first.  That will get the right firmware on.  Then, the sound file for the ps3 E unit is contained in the first-level zip file...as long as I unzip that file and point to the highlighted embedded sound file with the "mth" extension it will load properly, right? I don't need the "P172_P_EMD...-CPF file (which is the chain file for the PS3.0 only)

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The headlamp has no markings but it's totally isolated from frame ground.  I'll just hit it with a 5V power supply real quick and check before plugging in power.

Anyone have any info on the rear coupler shunt requirement?  Need to install a resistor when not running A-B-A or A-A?

Also added a question about speaker impedance...8 ohm is what I've got installed. Upgrade instructions say to use 4ohm...I should be fine right?  I don't care about loud volumes.

Finally...does anyone what type of station announcements the Premier Metra E-8 uses?  Is it particular to a certain Metra line? (I spent lots of time watching these on the Aurora line, would be awesome if they announced a few stations from that! Brookfield, Downers Grove, etc....)

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