R17 Maroon (?) Birds

The original as delivered r-17 was maroon. If you go to NY Subway Resources look under cars and you should find a photo with the correct color. The lower portion of the as delivered r-15 was the same color. I have not seen the new MTH r-17's yet so I cannot comment on the shade of maroon they used. It was a dark shade of maroon.

The interior was blue doors and dove grey panels with red venal cushioned seats. Very good looking car  I might add. Enjoy the set!

 

The original as delivered r-17 was maroon. If you go to NY Subway Resources look under cars and you should find a photo with the correct color. The lower portion of the as delivered r-15 was the same color. I have not seen the new MTH r-17's yet so I cannot comment on the shade of maroon they used. It was a dark shade of maroon.

The interior was blue doors and dove grey panels with red vynal cushioned seats. Very good looking car  I might add. Enjoy the set!

 

Thank you for your comments, Nate.

 

I did a little more research here and found out that this color change was apparently known to at least some of us almost a year ago. It's not what I expected, but it does make a good-looking set. I'll be happy enough.

 

Any chance we can see some pics of them? The catalog never does justice like a real photo. I'm waiting on my R142-A's scheduled for March delivery I hope!

MTH catalog say MAROON.

R-17’s as delivered were maroon. I never noticed this color as a kid because non-washed maroon cars always looked black.

Not a color choice I would have marketed as most people never noticed them.

Also the color had a short life span, repainted by other schemes which most are  familiar with.

 

MTH catalogs are generally incorrect. They just re-ran the red photo R17’s marketed years ago because they don’t have a sample maroon set yet.

 

 

Anyone interested in subways should purchase and study a few great books that are available.

looks like maroon...

 

Those are late model tri-color red birds in the video, not maroon.

See photo with maroon paint (late 1950's) ...

 

 

MTH's new R17 maroon color is spot on, and a welcome addition.  Now if only the windows will stay in place.

Does anyone have pictures of this set?? I'm curious myself 

Here are some pictures

video

http://youtu.be/8SXxLqeYYMc

Wow!! That set looks amazing! I may have to get one myself

Same old sounds! With PS 3 you would think they would at least give us some new sound files!

 

I agree, now the R142A 4 train from MTH is going to be very interesting, I'm hoping at least some additional sounds from it

Changed the couplers to short ones.

Just tried to run the 6 car R-17 maroon and it wouldn't go and my layout is flat.

The engine is even having a hard time with four. My track is clean and cars lubed.

Did they change the motor??

Video

 http://youtu.be/0W0tJRvDqzg

What about the Traction Tires?

Their on the power unit, the thing is brand new!!!!

Anyone else have this problem, I feel this Unit is underpowered.

Never had this problem running 5 cars with the power unit.

 

Looks maroon...once again. I think its close enough a match without getting ridiculous about it.

Thanks for the MTH video Greg.

The maroon and red set colors are not even close.

Looks like MTH copied the original prototype (as delivered) maroon scheme correctly.

I ran my set with all 4 cars and it runs ok with no problem.

 

1. Now that's the R-17's I remember The color is perfect. I can remember waiting for my first ride on the Brand new R-7's. My friends  and I wait at 125th street station. We let many trains of HI V's and Steinways go by until a train of R-17's pulled in. WOW!!!!, The were  a sight to see. Gleaming in their Maroon exterior color and the spanking new interior. The conductor announcing station stops in his Irish broge. The acceleration and braking were a marvel to experience for a 13 year old Bronx boy.  Wooosh!
2. The MTH maroon car is the way it was. They got it right

The memory might not be what' it was twenty years ago but it looks perfect to me. When the cars were new, that's how they looked. I'm happy with them.

Nice looking cars! I like the LED lighting with the PS-3. Thanks for posting pics.

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Greg, I had the same problem with the brand new R-36 PS3 set. I made sure the track was clean, and lubed the unit as you did.  My track is also flat and the powered unit would not even pull 2 cars.  I had to send the powered unit in for repair.   The MTH repair form said they fixed the motor and electric board.  I know can pull 4 cars wth no problem.

 

Ralph

The Maroon cars were repainted to red over 50 years ago.....

Memo to MTH: You're getting great reviews on the R17 maroon color- you really nailed it.  Now here's another slam dunk for you:  Reissue the R21s in as-delivered kale green.

looks like what I remember from the 70's. I'm liking it. Ordered two sets. Now if they would be able to pull five cars were in. The LED lights are nice and bright. They should look sweet in the tunnels, Steve the pictures you posted look sun faded. I remeber them being darker

The maroon really makes the silver window frames stand out nicely.

 

I still would love to see blue & silver R-12's with IMW's M logo decals!

Very sharp!   

I'll call MTH today and get a RA#

Greg, I got my set back within two weeks.  Which really surprised me.  I hope you get yours back from MTH as fast. 

Ralph

Sirt: What books do you suggest. Thanks. Tony

Jerry maybe I should test my engine.

I got it to pull the five cars today. Cleaned the track again and the wheels of the power unit. I'm still not that confident with it, so Brian I would come over and test yours.

 

Wonderful, and I ordered 6 cars

I too pre-ordered MTH's RED R-17 subway set and was surprised to see them arrive in the MAROON color. Admittedly they do look great and run very well indeed, but like Os3R, I too was expecting RED. I wrote to MTH on their facebook page to inquiry as to what happened to the red version of the R-17s and their response was that "...customers, a lot of customers requested maroon..."  I was not made aware of the change until I received my set.

ferroeqinologist,

I ordered my Maroon R-17's as well.A friend ordered them for me as part of his order.

I have a set of R-17's in red in the box never opened. in my modeling era the red ones and the silver and blue ones are too new. If you are unhappy I would be willing to trade the red ones for the maroon. I could live with 2 sets. Let me know.

Nate

Nate

if ferroeqinologist does not take you up on your offer, I would like to buy that set off you. If you want to sell.Lost two sets of them to hurricane sandy and trying to find a set.

Nate: Thanks for the offer, but I do like my maroon set and plan to keep it.  I was just surprised by the color change.

 

Greg: They're all yours!