Instead of Lionel having the Hall class 4-6-0 in liveries which are not prototype. How about some in REAL liveries the class used in GB. How many Halls were built! (OK, the HWX was gone for the HP movies, and there is a SHAKESPHERE EXPRESS.) There is a WIZARD'S EXPRESS, which is the HWX engine off set.
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According to Wikipedia, 259 Hall Class locomotives were built.
Found this neat summary page while looking:
http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/m_in_hal.htm
Rusty
I'd buy some, particularly if they offered a Legacy version in real Liveries and good paint.
Lee, we are currently building Castle class locos, which are almost identical to the Halls. They will be available in conventional AC with a Dallee E unit,
also in straight DC, and with TMCC with ERR Commander, Railsounds, electro coupler etc. These will be available in high rail and traditional toy train style. They will be detailed with cab fittings, foot plate etc. These Darstaed models will be available through me, The O Gauge Guy and Trains Hoover.
The conventional AC and DC models will be available before Christmas and the TMCC models early in the new year.
I forgot to mention, also in the AC conventional model, there will be available a whistle option. It will operate with the normal whistle button on your transformer, and will have a Lionel Electronic English Whistle and Big Boy speaker fitted.
Bearing in mind, this is a high quality fully diecast loco, including a diecast tender
pricing will be competitive for a loco of this quality.
What is the curve on the Castle?
What is the curve on the Castle?
Hi Dominic, it will be 048. All drivers are flanged.
Is it scale size?
I have the Lionel Shakespeare set and was under the impression that the locomotive was based on an actual prototype (there are youtubes of the restored Shakespeare and its pretty close to what Lionel made). I understand its not full scale (its what the Brits call coarse scale as opposed to finescale and that the tender is slightly oversize to accomodate the whistle) but for $228 it is an amazingly nice train set. Keep in mind Lionel corrected the flaws in the Hogwarts and gave the Shakespeare a proper British whistle and put metal trucks on the cars. The only real flaws in my opinion are the American style knuckle couplers but when everything is together you really dont notice it. I think Lionel missed the boat in not following up with other liveries and not producing other British prototype equipment like a small tank engine (0-4-0/0-6-0) and some 2 axle goods wagons and maybe even buildings and bridges etc. Part of that decision is probably the poor economy but it appears to be slowly recovering so who knows. If you read the British equivalent of this forum most were pretty impressed with the Shakespeare set and especially with the price. bertiejoa
And you would think Lionel would have UK type produces for those who want to exband beyond Thomas, Potter and Shakesphere sets.
What is the curve on the Castle?
Hi Dominic, it will be 048. All drivers are flanged.
That is too wide for me. But you might want to consider power and wagons for O-27, O-31 and O-36 layouts. UK scale items would look right on our small layouts!
I have the Lionel Shakespeare set and was under the impression that the locomotive was based on an actual prototype (there are youtubes of the restored Shakespeare and its pretty close to what Lionel made). I understand its not full scale (its what the Brits call coarse scale as opposed to finescale and that the tender is slightly oversize to accomodate the whistle) but for $228 it is an amazingly nice train set. Keep in mind Lionel corrected the flaws in the Hogwarts and gave the Shakespeare a proper British whistle and put metal trucks on the cars. The only real flaws in my opinion are the American style knuckle couplers but when everything is together you really dont notice it. I think Lionel missed the boat in not following up with other liveries and not producing other British prototype equipment like a small tank engine (0-4-0/0-6-0) and some 2 axle goods wagons and maybe even buildings and bridges etc. Part of that decision is probably the poor economy but it appears to be slowly recovering so who knows. If you read the British equivalent of this forum most were pretty impressed with the Shakespeare set and especially with the price. bertiejoa
Hi bertiejoa. The Darstaed Castle which Dave Allan refers to above is a true O Gauge scale model unlike the Hogwarts you refer to. Within the O Gauge fraternity you basically get two camps especially in the UK - fine and coarse scale. Both versions of the same thing will be to scale, but its the detail which ends up defining if its regarded as fine or coarse. Fine scalers will go to extraordinary lengths to produce absolutely fabulous scale models - rivet counters is not an uncommon term, but they should rather be applauded for their attention to detail. On the other hand, coarse scalers are not so concerned with such things but nevertheless still recognise a great model when they see one, and the Darstaed Castle is certainly that. Its tender is true to scale with the engine. Hope this helps.
David Upton (UK)
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