Received my Beef set

Hello,

The Walthers were called the "Oscar" and "Piker" back in the day.

I have enjoyed what you have had to say about your new set. I have been wrestling with either buying a Beef and pax cars or get the rail king short pax cars instead.

I may end up getting the RMT items.. but we will have to see.

Southwest Hiawatha...Appreciate your comments about the PEEP passenger cars. Yes they were inspired by a similar version I had years ago in HO. However, at that time there were only 2 cars offered...Coach/"Oscar" and Observation/"Piker". RMT expanded to include a Baggage car and since the PEEPs are really shorter Madison type cars...I could only suggest the Baggage car be a "Felix" to match the 'Odd Couple" cars "Oscar" and "Piker".

You are very good to notice there was no B&O Coach #666...obvious reasons there to skip a number!

If you really need more B&O passenger cars for your BEEFs, the new Streamline Passenger cars will be available late Summer in B&O.

Found a copy of the original Walther's ad for the 'Oscar" and "Piker" cars...

Thanks.

Walter M. Matuch/RMT

www.readymadetoys.com

Mr. Matuch,

  How do the new 0-27 streamlined passenger cars look in line with the BEEFs?  Do you have any pictures of a consist? I'm hoping that they go well together.

V/r,

Sea-B

My War Bonnet BEEF's are VERY nicely painted and detailed. The wire screens and moving fans are great.

On a side note.....how I miss them Walthers catalogs and kits from the 60's and even 70's. When I was dating my now wife her dad was always building a Walthers kit of some kind at the kitchen table when I came by. At the time I was in HO and did not understand why he built these huge O cars when I could pick up a Athrean coach for $3 and have it done in minutes.......now I know why.....

I have an A-B-B-A set of Warbonnet BEEFS and agree they are quality throughout and really nicely done.  However, I don't run them often, much as I like them - they are too "scale" to be toys (unlike BEEPs) and too "toy" to be a scale loco.  I still ove them, though.

Thats good to hear. I keep eyeing the NYC BEEFs but would prefer to have theanew streamlined coaches. I'll have to settle on the NYC though as I'd really love to have a BEEF in McGuiness colors.

Not to change the subject but when I saw the Walthers page I remembered a car kit that they offered that used an empty beer can you supplied to make a "tank" car. Does anyone else remember it or bought one?

Jerry

YEP!...my father in law built a number of them. I have the remains of two of them...enough to rebuild one car I think. Sure miss those Walthers O catalogs....

Actually the walthers cars are the Observation (Oscar) & Diner (Piker)

I picked up a set of 4 RMT cars off of a seller on ebay for $160 shipped (they took Paypal).  Now we need a RPO, Dinner(maybe a kitchen car and eating car set), and a Sleeper in these short heavyweight cars

They are not a good match IMHO. Think of the Lionel Texas Special set from the 1950s. The Beef is 2 1/2" wide vs. the 027 cars 2 1/8" and the cars are 1/2" shorter (height) than the engine. The engine is close to scale size except for length. A better match would be the 15" aluminum cars. If you get the powered B unit you would not have any problem pulling 6 or so 15" cars.

Pete

I agree.  I have a Warbonnet A-B-B-A set and they look good with a set of 15" alum Lionel superChief set cars from the 1992 era they offered then.  The almost look like they belong with them, but frankly the Lionel A-B-A near-scale Warbonnets that came with them looks a tad better, just due to size.  

My "problem" with BEEFS is that they are very hard to match when putting together a train: they are too scale to be toys and too "toy" to fully fit in with scale stuff.  For some reason, BEEPS seem to get away with it either way, but not these puppies.  I still like them a lot.