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There is a Right-of Way Industries GN N3 2-8-8-0 on an auction site supposedly runs well however the headlight. markers and number boards don't work and only the whistle part of the sound system works.  no air pumps, chuffs or bell.  Does any body have one of these N3s or know what kind of sound system it has.  Would the headlight, markers and number boards be one bulb or multiple>

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Joe

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I have several of the big ROW mallets. It is very difficult to repair them, because parts are not available.  I would bid on the assumption that you will not be able to fix it, unless it's a question of a wire being loose. Even so, they are not easy to "open up".  Yet, they are beautiful locomotives and I don't care if the bells ring or don't. (Actually their whistles are much better than the bells).  The prices today are way below what they once were, and in my opinion they are wonderful pieces.  Also keep in mind that it will cost you a lot of money to try to convert them to DCS or TMCC.  I run mine conventional.

Lewrail

Here's some answers to your questions.....
All but the last sound systems/power supplies were built specifically for ROW.  Only the last loco (C&O Allegheny?) had an Ott sound system.
 
The bulbs are 1.5V grain of rice. Since none work it might be that a wire in the loco/tender connector is broken. 


The sound system uses IC's that are long since discontinued.  This was built over 20 years ago. 


The sound system generated the 1.5V for lights and 5V for the smoke unit, hence the complexity of this system.  On the other hand it was the first ever on board digital sound system and constant lighting unit.  It was designed to fit the locomotives and get the job done.

Any other questions???
 
Lou N
 
 
Originally Posted by coach joe:

There is a Right-of Way Industries GN N3 2-8-8-0 on an auction site supposedly runs well however the headlight. markers and number boards don't work and only the whistle part of the sound system works.  no air pumps, chuffs or bell.  Does any body have one of these N3s or know what kind of sound system it has.  Would the headlight, markers and number boards be one bulb or multiple>

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Joe

 

Thanks for your comments; I tried to make sure that the whistles were appropriate for the locomotive.  Took some  interesting expeditions to do recording.
 
Regards,
 
Lou N
 
 
Originally Posted by lewrail:

 Yet, they are beautiful locomotives and I don't care if the bells ring or don't. (Actually their whistles are much better than the bells).  The prices today are way below what they once were, and in my opinion they are wonderful pieces.  Also keep in mind that it will cost you a lot of money to try to convert them to DCS or TMCC.  I run mine conventional.

Lewrail

 

Originally Posted by pennsyk4:
Originally Posted by artyoung:

 Lewrail is right, they're easier to convert to straight conventional, rather than try to squeeze in modern electronics.

What makes you think that TMCC or PS2 needs to be "squeezed" to fit in the tender of a ROW articulated?

Do those ROW models have fly-wheels on the motors? If they are equipped with fly-wheels, it should NOT be a big problem to install an ERR up-grade kit.

I have had first hand experience converting the U.P. 2-8-8-0 for a friend, to a QSI sound system (PS-2 wasn't possible see below) and although it turned out well, I agree with David and would caution against buying one. The loco has both motor/driver assemblies suspended each by one small screw and each set of drivers pivots unlike the real one. There are no flywheels and no way to install them, because the motors are mounted vertically with no space available. This are dated in terms of detail and features.

 

Eric Hofberg

TCA, LCCA

ROW items were pioneering, but I've heard stories about their design/quality that are

all over the map; the PRR T1 is not a particularly good replica - but no one else had one

out. 

 

I have 2 of their B&O-prototype 0-4-0's. Made by Ajin. They run like watches. I plan

to put a DC Commander in one - the gearing is good so cruise is not needed. It's

lettered for the GN, so I'll replace the road name. The antenna is going to be a pain.

 

I believe that it tested well over my GG switches when last I ran it - I'll confirm -

the lack of traction tires really helps.

 

I own no other ROW items; I'd love to have their brass PA's (I've seen them), but

no ROW item is worth the price people tend to ask for it.

You're making me nervous; what was Jim doing inside that transformer????
 
Seriously, a summary of these comments...
ROW was state of the art 20 years ago.  Most of it was built by Ajin and most of it had high end Pittman motors.  It was designed and built prior to TMCC; all of mine is still conventional.  Back in the days of TAS, Phil would curse me when we would get a ROW for TMCC upgrade. 


I am pleased tp have to  locos i have; they all still run well.
 
Regards,
 
Lou N
 
 
 
 
Originally Posted by rattler21:

I have a R-O-W transformer that Barrett rebuilt about twelve years ago.

Very powerful and sturdy.

Does anyone have a BRUTE transformer?  It is about twenty inches tall, about12" wide and maybe 7 inches deep.  White with red and blue controls.

John

 

rattler21:  I have two mint (never out of the shipping cartons) 600 W "Max" transformers built by Bill Benson.  However, they are the forest green color versions.  Was going to let them go, but my good friend Marty Fitz recommended I keep them...he also uses them on his layout as has been featured quite a few times in OGR.

we need to realize these engines were made at a time when your other choices were post war and mpc lionel. there was no 3rd rail,atlaso , or mikes. bill b.'s company opened the door to todays scale detailed locos. i attended several of the open house events r.o.w. had at their akron,ohio location. remember  how well the equipment ran on the display layout. i just did not agree with some of the business practices,but thats another topic.-jim

we need to realize these engines were made at a time when your other choices were post war and mpc lionel. there was no 3rd rail,atlaso , or mikes.

NOt quite. Looking at all my sales brochures, this ROWI loco was announced in 1990 and arrived some time in 1991. This was the Pinacle of Williams/Samhongsa/Mike Wolf brass production. Granted if you wanted A "GREAt NORTHERN" scale Loco, your choices were limited to the statement above since the next Great Northern Articulated wasn't until Weaver Samhongsa did the R1 in the mid 1990's.


Originally Posted by mixerman:

we need to realize these engines were made at a time when your other choices were post war and mpc lionel. there was no 3rd rail,atlaso , or mikes. bill b.'s company opened the door to todays scale detailed locos. i attended several of the open house events r.o.w. had at their akron,ohio location. remember  how well the equipment ran on the display layout. i just did not agree with some of the business practices,but thats another topic.-jim

Although they were the the first big scale locos in three rail, they were junk passed off as a quality product. Bill Benson had no ethics when it came to business. 

 

I'm glad ROW is gone and it could not have happened to a nicer guy. 

 

Hey Bill, I still want my refund!! 

coach joe,

 

        Keep your eyes open for one of these ROW little guys ("Little Joes";"Docksiders"). They came in several road names. As D500 posted, they run like watches. Perfect for tight curves, like their prototypes.

        The tether is designed for a sound system in a car coupled to the locomotive. It appears to be gray in the center photo, but it is black.

 

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Thanks for that thought on the whistle.  I'm trying to remember where i went to get that one. 
 
Regards,
 
Lou N
 
 
Originally Posted by lewrail:

Here are a few photos of my Right of Way roster, all purchased within the last 5 years.  All run well, but you have to treat them with care.  I still think the whistle on the C&O mallet is one of the best I've heard.  Lew Schneider

12 RIGHT OF WAY B&O CLASS KK 2

68 RIGHT OF WAY CHESSIE MALLET

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