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So I got a new G scale MTH GS4.

http://mthtrains.com/70-3006-1

OK, well it's relatively new looking. The battery is dead totally. The engine moved forward a foot running in conventional and then shut down?

 I pulled her onto the work bench and she has been looked at by someone? There are screws missing from the bottom gearbox covers. Most remaining screws are stripped that hold on the covers. I think it may have even been out of sync by a tooth? The four axles on this are split into pairs and articulated. That allows the frame to go around tighter curves. It appears that the engine is binding somewhere as on the bench she spins to a point and then stalls as if there's a bind? So I split the lower cover off and moved her a tooth into sync with the front pair, now she seems to try better. Still I hear louder motor noise than usual?

 The funny thing is that as the smoke unit chuffs, the engine stalls. If I shut the smoke unit off, she runs? If she's in neutral, the smoke unit seems to blow good smoke. I'm not sure at this point if I should look at the smoke unit at all or if it's just in the gearing? The teeth of the rear most drive axle looked good anyways while I was in there. The middle two axles are only driven by their outer partners.

 Maybe the smoke unit is drawing too much and causing the board to shut down? Again she'll run roughly without smoke, but shuts down or severely stumbles with smoke on.

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DSC_1527DSC_1528OK, forgive me as I did some last night and I'm back at it. So here's from memory.

With the smoke off last night and the engine running, she drew around an amp. With the smoke on, she jumped to 2.5 amps. When I turned the smoke dial back off, the engine sped way faster.

This morning I fired her up with the smoke unit unplugged and the smoke dial turned up. She drew something like .7 of an amp and ran good. Seemed to smooth out any binding or motor noise that I heard last night? Maybe she was struggling for power?

 I will try the smoke motor and element each as suggested later.

smoke filaments = 6 ohms

fan motor = 8 ohms ran good with 2 AA batteries.

Will swap out whole unit and/or look for shorts in wiring. Maybe another bad smoke pot?

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Thanks again G. I thought it was more than usual. I'm jumpy because I don't wish to see the board fry. I was going to put my SD70ACe smoke unit in her as it would be a quick swap. I also thought of putting this board in that engine to see what happens.

 Life gets in the way and I can't work on trains anymore today. I have to do some honey do list stuff first,..... and second, third,...and so forth.

 I believe what happened, is the engine arrived with a dead battery. It had zero shut down sounds. I did not test anything first. I placed the engine on my RR with DCS on. I added the engine to the remote that changed the address to #1. That probably did not stick. The engine ran forward over an unpowered frog and sputtered. I am not sure why it stalled at that point.

 When I attempted to use the remote to restart the engine, it said "engine not on track". That is because the engine is supposed to be in address #1 but had reverted to whatever address the old user assigned. I attempted to then run the engine on straight DC, but with a dead battery, that's a crap shoot.

 She is drawing extra power in conventional with the smoke up full. I don't see any shorts with my meter. If I turn the pot down slightly while she runs on rollers, the engine behaves pretty well. I need to test further with DCS. I don't know if the pot is active in DCS mode at all? Maybe a shorting pot would still be bad for the circuit? It seems good with my meter anyways. I had one that shorted when shut off.

 The fact that some other person tore into the gear box and stripped most of the screws so bad they would not stay in, has left me guessing on why they were in there. I will have to test the engine now under some kind of load to see how she behaves. Please, if you go into a plastic engine, don't torque the screws so tight! A tip I learned here is to back the screws slightly at first until the screw finds the threads that are already cut. Then turn the screw forward until snug.

I will post more as I get time.

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