I'm thinking about purchasing a low end engine to pull 5 or 6 cars around my flat 4x8 layout. Track is 027 profile, inner loop 027 curves with a 6 inch straight at the apex, outer loop 042. The potential options are a Lionel MPC era GP20, single open frame motor of a K-Line MP15 with dual can motors. I'm sure either would be able to handle the train I'm assembling on the flat track of my layout but which would provide better performance, quieter, less amp draw, etc? Any opinions would be appreciated.
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On a layout that size, it wouldn't matter. However, in the big picture a 2 motor will do much better.
Probably the dual can motor is better.
However, I wouldn't overlook condition. I just bought a K-Line GP-38 which is a nice running conventional engine. It took me 10 hours to get this one running like it should.
As I recall, the K-Line MP15s have the small DC motors in the trucks. At least the early ones did. Did they build a version with vertical can motors?
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The AC motor will draw far more current than the K-Line dual motored engine. It'll have better low speed performance and better speed control.
The K-line MP15 would be a much better choice. Dual AC can motor will pull less current and it will have four traction tires. It will our perform the MPC loco all day.
The K-Line MP15 and similar engines with truck mounted motors can derail on 027 curves.
As mentioned, if an earlier K-Line with the small truck mounted motors it will be extremely fast and difficult to maintain slower speeds. We had a couple at our hobby shop years ago and ours would always win a drag race we would set up from time to time on Saturdays or at shpows. Previously the Marx 666 steam loco was the undisputed speed king before the K-Line switchers came along...
Thank you all for the responses.
@ChiTown Steve, what kind of work was required to get that GP38 running right?
@gunrunnerjohn, just to be clear are you saying the K-line will have better low-speed performance and speed control?
@c.sam posted:As mentioned, if an earlier K-Line with the small truck mounted motors it will be extremely fast and difficult to maintain slower speeds. We had a couple at our hobby shop years ago and ours would always win a drag race we would set up from time to time on Saturdays or at shpows. Previously the Marx 666 steam loco was the undisputed speed king before the K-Line switchers came along...
I have one of these somewhere and if memory serves me, wiring the 2 can motors in series helps with speed control.
Tony
Joe- I have both, I'd take the K-line MP-15 over a MPC. The K-lines are jack rabbits- mine are all wired in series.
The other drawback to the MPC is a conventional e-unit over an electronic reverse board in the K-lines.
Bob
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Yes, probably by a country mile. The Pulmore was never known as a slow speed runner, primarily due to the fact that it's a 3-pole motor, and can motors are either 5-pole or 7-pole. Also, the combination of two motors also smooths things out.
I upgraded my Lionel Phantom from one Pulmore motor to two motors, it made a huge difference in the running characteristics, especially at low speed.