You can count on me ordering the Southern 630. Also see they have the Southern 21" passenger cars listed.
Neal Jeter
I'd love to see some TVR passenger cars for the 630 and 2594. Nice way for restored steam to make its way on a modern layout.
Originally Posted by Lionlman:
You can count on me ordering the Southern 630. Also see they have the Southern 21" passenger cars listed.
Neal Jeter
Just remember, it's not a model of the 630, it's the Harriman (UP/SP) 2-8-0 with a low, square Pennsy Atlantic style tender lettered for Southern 630.
Rusty
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Just remember, it's not a model of the 630, it's the Harriman (UP/SP) 2-8-0 with a low, square Pennsy Atlantic style tender lettered for Southern 630.
Ugh.
PASS...
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by Lionlman:
You can count on me ordering the Southern 630. Also see they have the Southern 21" passenger cars listed.
Neal Jeter
Just remember, it's not a model of the 630, it's the Harriman (UP/SP) 2-8-0 with a low, square Pennsy Atlantic style tender lettered for Southern 630.
Rusty
Pssst! There are others if you type 2-8-0 into the search box on the new website
Originally Posted by Peter Araujo:
I sure hope they don't use this tooling for their BTO Consolidations, except for UP 618 and Southern Pacific 2521:
I know how Lionel tends to use older toolings on a lot of their products. Other than that, I'm excited to see the new catalog on Friday, can't wait to see the end result.
Be careful what you don't wish for... :/
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by Lionlman:
You can count on me ordering the Southern 630. Also see they have the Southern 21" passenger cars listed.
Neal Jeter
Just remember, it's not a model of the 630, it's the Harriman (UP/SP) 2-8-0 with a low, square Pennsy Atlantic style tender lettered for Southern 630.
Rusty
Never mind, I am going to pass...
You can see my posting of the 630 on Southern thread.
Unfortunately, as mentioned above it is not modeled after the 630. I will have to pass
on this one.
Originally Posted by kjstrains:
You can see my posting of the 630 on Southern thread.
Unfortunately, as mentioned above it is not modeled after the 630. I will have to pass
on this one.
eww...that makes me sick and saves me money at the same time...
Originally Posted by kjstrains:
You can see my posting of the 630 on Southern thread.
Unfortunately, as mentioned above it is not modeled after the 630. I will have to pass
on this one.
It turns out they are using the same tooling. Oh well, it's not that big of a deal. I'll just have to pass on the Southern 630 and get the Union Pacific 618 instead. And speaking of Zoolander, they're coming out with a sequel next year.
I wonder if they could somehow use the same tender as they did with the 4-8-2 Mountain engine they did around 10 years ago? That would would be just right for 630. I could live with that despite the locomotive itself being wrong. Here is a link to the Southern 4-8-2. http://marketplace-images.coll...fabf51fb-a47_001.JPG
Well after seeing the picture I am not so sure I will be buying it. Maybe if enough people tell Lionel this is the wrong tender they can correct it before it is built. It looks like the tenders for the 4-6-0 or the Mikados is a better match for the 630.
Neal Jeter
Originally Posted by Lionlman:
Well after seeing the picture I am not so sure I will be buying it. Maybe if enough people tell Lionel this is the wrong tender they can correct it before it is built. It looks like the tenders for the 4-6-0 or the Mikados is a better match for the 630.
Neal Jeter
The description also says it has electrocouplers on the front and back. I do not see that in the photo. Lets hope this photo is just a generic rendering. Fingers crossed...
Originally Posted by lionel89:
Originally Posted by Lionlman:
Well after seeing the picture I am not so sure I will be buying it. Maybe if enough people tell Lionel this is the wrong tender they can correct it before it is built. It looks like the tenders for the 4-6-0 or the Mikados is a better match for the 630.
Neal Jeter
The description also says it has electrocouplers on the front and back. I do not see that in the photo. Lets hope this photo is just a generic rendering. Fingers crossed...
There are 6 other engines being offered for this model with different road names. They look all the same except for the Union Pacific and Southern Pacific that have different tenders. Unfortunately, the artist rending is probably fairly close to what is going to look like. Like with the Southern Heavy Mikado that has not come out yet, it will look like the other Heavy Mikados that came out earlier this year, but it is not correct for the Southern Railroad. My point is Lionel is manufacturing engines with multiple road names such as for 2-8-0, Heavy Mikado, but they use the same tooling for each road name which may or may not be accurate for each road name.
I guess I could just imagine the 630 was shopped during WWII and ended up with the 6898 tender.I think I still want it now.
Along with other problems Lionel's 630 has the bell in the wrong location. I pass.
Man talk about a big let down.....Guess I'll be sticking to my original plan and will repaint my Weaver Boston&Maine 2-8-0 into Southern 630. I was hoping that Lionel would have done a generic 2-8-0 like weaver. Then I could have use my B&M model for Southern 722 and buy 630.
Well it boils down to "Do you feel lucky punk??" because you're taking a chance when you preorder from Lionel.
Lionel has recently delivered some engines that were so-so in the catalog, but when they hit the stores were real knockouts - the Y6B and the most recent Legacy Nickel Plate 765 come to mind. 2 models I passed up on initially and will now be hunting down.I have a feeling that Lionel will do the same on this model.
If we all let Lionel know that they need to do a better job on this model then perhaps they'll listen, especially if they don't get that many orders of a very popular locomotive, which the 630 is.
As mentioned here, all they have to do is change the tender, headlight and some other details to make a good representation.
I'm with most of you, I'm not paying $1000 for a locomotive that doesn't look anything like the prototype.
Unless Lionel comes out with a statement or addendum stating they will make the 630 more accurate, I'm going to wait until the MTH catalog comes out and then decide which way I want to go.
