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I just received a new, never been opened 2009 Lionel/MTH Conventional engine with PS2 and 2 protodrive motors. In anticipation of it's arrival, I bought a BCR2, but now I wonder if I'm doing the correct thing. The manual says the replacement battery is either AA NiCad blue casing or AAA NiMH green casing. Is the BCR2 the correct alternative? I don't want to open this up until I have the correct battery.

And the grease. As a result of my MTH 263 blue comet gear destruction, I want to be careful about running this new engine. Do I have to pull the motors out and open them up somehow to regrease the gears inside? The only instructions are the usual lubricate and grease the gears and bushings that you can see.



Thanks



David

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David,

This is from the J&W maker of the BCR2 website…

“The BCR 2 is used in the PS2, three volt system. If your PS2 engine uses a battery pack with two AA batteries, in a blue plastic wrap, or 2 AAA batteries in a green plastic wrap or your engine has been upgraded to PS2, you can now replace that battery with the BCR 2.”

I have used the BCR2 in PS2 Standard Gauge new old stock locos with great results. In fact like you, I buy a BCR2 in advance of receiving a new old stock loco and install the BCR2 before powering up the engine.

As far as lubrication goes, I just flip the engine over and lay it in a foam cradle and lightly apply labelle oil and a tiny bit of white lithium grease to all the areas indicated in the diagram in the manual. I have never opened up a new engine to do any lubricating, the motors have always arrived properly lubed.

@Craignor posted:

...As far as lubrication goes, I just flip the engine over and lay it in a foam cradle and lightly apply labelle oil and a tiny bit of white lithium grease to all the areas indicated in the diagram in the manual. I have never opened up a new engine to do any lubricating, the motors have always arrived properly lubed.

On an engine that's over a decade old, wouldn't there be a concern about the grease on the worm gear being inadequate or having hardened?  Been seeing a lot of posts recently about the axle gears getting chewed up by the worm gear.

@Mallard4468 posted:

On an engine that's over a decade old, wouldn't there be a concern about the grease on the worm gear being inadequate or having hardened?  Been seeing a lot of posts recently about the axle gears getting chewed up by the worm gear.

Never had any problems like that, just a little oil and grease as specified in the manual, and all mine run smooth and quiet.

Hi Mike,

MTH 11-2009-1

Manual says 2.4V



And regarding grease, I posted awhile ago about my MTH 263 that was never run until I got it this year. Within a couple of months the bronze gear was totally destroyed. At least ,members were able to help me find a replacement part that I will install soon hopefully. I brought this up in this post because I didn't know if this engine has similar vulnerabilities 

You’ll be okay with that BCR2.  I don’t own a brute so I don’t know anything about the gears.  I have a 390E steam engine.  When it was brand new, it would lock up at slow speeds around STD-42 curves.  I opened it up and greased the heck out of that worm gear with Red’N’Tacky.  It’s never happened since and that was a couple years ago.  That brute is a cool looking engine!

@Trainfamily posted:
And regarding grease, I posted awhile ago about my MTH 263 that was never run until I got it this year. Within a couple of months the bronze gear was totally destroyed. At least ,members were able to help me find a replacement part that I will install soon hopefully. I brought this up in this post because I didn't know if this engine has similar vulnerabilities

YES!

You need to follow the manual for greasing the worm and worm gear, every 25 hours of operation!  This locomotive has the same style drive as the one you recently had the gear problem with.  The bonus is it has two of them!

For some reason, they seem to ignore the worm gear and worm, and those are by far the most likely to wear out quickly without sufficient lubrication!

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