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Good morning, and welcome to STEAMday Sunday. Arnold Cribari is away and has asked me to post today’s discussion of steam locomotives.

My steamer for today is New Haven Railroad 4-6-0 Ten-Wheeler #816, a Lionel Legacy model (6-82272) advertised in the 2014 Volume 2 catalog at MSRP $899.99. Lionel refers to this engine as a “Classic Design from the 19th Century.” Although the model looks quite similar to New Haven’s #816, its prototype is a New York Central Class F-12 4-6-0 locomotive built by ALCo. The model is listed for O-42 curves but O-54 is recommended.

In the early 1900s, Ten-Wheelers hauled mainline passenger trains of wood coaches, but 4-6-2 Pacifics replaced them within a few years as heavier cars with steel construction entered service.

New Haven Class G-4 #816 was built by Baldwin in 1904 and ran in Shore Line express passenger service between New York City and Boston when new. As pictured on my 12’-by-8’ layout, it is pulling MTH models of heavyweight steel passenger cars typical of the 1920s.

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MELGAR

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Hello StDaySun fans!  We’re fortunate to have a very capable substitute engineer take the throttle this morning!

This morning I’ve gone to the archives for a doubleheader steam caboose hop.  Yard drill NYC 0-4-0 no. 901 is paired with shop switcher NYC 0-6-0T no. X-8688 pulling a classic NYC wood caboose.  There’s “just something” about  NYC steam, I have more NYC steam in my collection than anything else.

John

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In 1916 American Flyer announced a new line of trains called the "Hummer" line.  It was AF 's attempt to increase sales of their lower line trains in the hope of broadening their customer base and increasing sales.  The Hummer locomotive, in its first style was made 1916-1918 and then in 1918 a new stamping appeared as is shown below.  The loco is clockwork and sheet-metal, was available from 1918 -1926.  An 0-4-0 it was approximately 6 3/8" long and was accompanied by a type 50 tender.  Somewhat later, starting in about 1924, they added the boiler hand rails and re-numbered the tender 513.  Thus I would date this one to that time period.  OBTW the "crackle finish on the tender is not original from Flyer I feel that it is just a product of age in the enamel.

So there she is, a proud survivor of a century of play by who knows how many young people or adults.  Her clockwork motor still works and she can still move around my flat 0-31 curved layout.  The key is fixed to the loco (thank goodness) or it would be long gone I fear.

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Best wishes, hope your week goes well.

Don

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@Steam Crazy posted:

Hello StDaySun fans!  We’re fortunate to have a very capable substitute engineer take the throttle this morning!

This morning I’ve gone to the archives for a doubleheader steam caboose hop.  Yard drill NYC 0-4-0 no. 901 is paired with shop switcher NYC 0-6-0T no. X-8688 pulling a classic NYC wood caboose.  There’s “just something” about  NYC steam, I have more NYC steam in my collection than anything else.

John



John, that NYC 0-4-0 is very well detailed especially with the classification and marker lights.
Is it a MTH model?

Gene

@Steam Crazy posted:

Hi Gene,

Yes, my 0-4-0 is MTH Premier.  The model is actually based on a PRR A4 switcher, but it's such a nice engine that doesn't bother me at all.  I think the rods and valve gear are outstanding, among other details.  One of MTH's best efforts, in my opinion.

John

Thanks John,

I’m hoping the long awaited, revised version of the Lionel Legacy A5 0-4-0 I preordered last fall will look as good as yours.

Gene

In 1916 American Flyer announced a new line of trains called the "Hummer" line.  It was AF 's attempt to increase sales of their lower line trains in the hope of broadening their customer base and increasing sales.  The Hummer locomotive, in its first style was made 1916-1918 and then in 1918 a new stamping appeared as is shown below.  The loco is clockwork and sheet-metal, was available from 1918 -1926.  An 0-4-0 it was approximately 6 3/8" long and was accompanied by a type 50 tender.  Somewhat later, starting in about 1924, they added the boiler hand rails and re-numbered the tender 513.  Thus I would date this one to that time period.  OBTW the "crackle finish on the tender is not original from Flyer I feel that it is just a product of age in the enamel.

So there she is, a proud survivor of a century of play by who knows how many young people or adults.  Her clockwork motor still works and she can still move around my flat 0-31 curved layout.  The key is fixed to the loco (thank goodness) or it would be long gone I fear.


American Flyer Hummer loco front quarter

Best wishes, hope your week goes well.

Don

Don,

I would be interested in seeing a video of one of your clockwork engines running on your layout. I'm an oldtimer in the hobby but I don't think I've ever seen a clockwork engine run.

MELGAR

MELGAR - Thanks for being at the throttle this fine Steam Day Sunday!!  I hope Arnold is enjoying himself wherever he may be ... the TCA Convention maybe??   Wonderful posts everyone!!  My post today is inspired by the posts of Steam Crazy ( John ) and Bob ( RSJB )  regarding the A5.  I have a K line A5 which I bought new in 2019 at The Great Scale Model Train Show in Timonium, Md.  This A5  quickly became the subject of my second attempt at weathering a steam locomotive.  The first was weathering my MTH Docksider.   I absolutely love my A5!  Someday I hope to own a MTH A5, the same as John, but I will not depart with my K line, the same as Bobs!  

Here is a shot from the switch tower showing the A5 taking on water across the way at the water tank.

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Here's a closer look.

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Hogger Wally Krueger and brakeman J.K. Billings have climbed out of the cab to stretch their legs.  The two men give the engine the once over as their trained ( no pun intended ) eyes slowly scan the steaming beast before them.    MOW workers keep on working and are not at all impressed by "just another steam engine taking on water."  

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The A5 later rounds a bend pulling a short string of cars.

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The A5 is certainly not a head turner as passengers wait on the commuter platform for their train.  Hogger Krueger steadily brings his train past the platform at 5 mph, with bell clanging.  

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While waiting for a red signal, conductor Clarence Ogle has walked forward from the caboose to chat with Wally, tthe hogger.  Seems there's a few extra switching maneuvers, not included on today's switch list, which the crew will have to make.  

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Clarence remarks to Wally " Ain't this heat somethin else!"  To which Wally replies "Those dag burn diesel boys got it made in the shade!  No boiler or firebox to raise the temperature into the triple digits!  If Ol' Buster, our fireman, didn't have to keep an eye on the gauges, he'd be down here on the ground with us.  I'm sure glad my firing days are done and gone!  At least it's in the low 90's down here on the ground!

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@MELGAR_- Mel, I am headed off to a short vacation with family and away from my "horde" but I will try to post some video's of a clockwork's running when I return.  I can tell you my experience is that they vary.  The early ones and the low end ones are somewhat "jerky" and most certainly don't have a consistent speed.  Some of the more elaborate ones, like the higher end Hornby's, even have track tripped reverse / stop and speed control and  they are very different looking.  Will see what I can assemble when I return.

Best wishes

Don

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