SUPERLINER

Brilliant, JP.

I'll be watching. 

Overland Models made both Superliner I and IIs about 20 years ago in brass.  They had no interiors.  Diners and lounge cars can be found with some patience but coaches and sleepers are few and far between.

well now that settles the interior problem.

B Harris

i have a 3D laser printer, if you want to email me your .stl or .obj files i would be happy to test print the components. I could mail the models back to you and/or post here.

JPV,

Which 3-d program are you using and how easy was it to learn. I have a possible need for one of these programs and would like to hear input from those that are currently using one.

Thanks to all for your comments! it's nice and make me happy!

I didn't know that Overland made these cars; but without interiors for a brand like that! it's like a living room without a sofa! no?

Thanks Alan for your proposal; 

---> COASTERP: I use SKETCHUP Make (free version); really easy to use, believe me. Just some basic knowledge of the software, that's all; you can find on the web many videos for beginners and you will see that it's not hard at all.

See you this evening for more pictures and the specification.

jpv

JPV, I'm sure you can see from the excitement around this post, that there is a market for accurate interiors, as well as the cars themelves...  Definitely interested in seeing how your project progresses and ultimately if any products become available.  Really like the level of detail I see thus far in your renders.  

Thanks Mike!

Some more pictures:

The chassis and how are fitted the two partitions (in and outside)

14 pieces make the chassis; they are from different size of spacing; her is the longest:

and now the same printed in 3D by the guy I told you about earlier:

Here is the adjustment of some pieces in the middle of the car; all fit together well!  phew!!!

Last one, the first piece I made yesterday: it's the rest room partitions (lower level)

See you later for the specification; files must be too  large..

jpv

Hello all,

Here are the specification for the superliner and two updatings. Hope these Word files can be opened!

As I have said, it's in french, sorry! but I think some people here can translate for those who don't know my language.

jpv

Little work of the day: the other side of the rest room (not yet glued; I have to paint first) with a little squaring mistake on the top right side of the door!!! I just notice it!!!

Too late!!!

jpv

I was forced to redo the restroom partitions because they were too thin (0,5 mm) and they have to support the floor of the upper level; now they are 1 mm thick.

I also began the first floor sideboard placed at the top of the stairs; not yet finished!

See you soon

jpv

Wow, amazing work.

I spent a lot of time in Superliners in September when my wife and I (and some friends) crossed the country from NYC to Seattle, via the Capitol Limited and the Empire Builder.  The Roomettes were nice but a little tight quarters at night when not actually sleeping...

I'm looking forward to seeing your scale rendition of the sleeper areas.

That's nice work JPV.

In 1998 I had an 8900 mile Amtrak trip around the USA, mostly on Superliner trains. Traveled coach all the way on an economy ticket. I usually had an empty seat next to me at night and it gave more space to try to sleep. The big cars ride well. The coach seats are spacious and comfortable. Unfortunately some of the coach seats don't line up well with the windows, if you want a view.

I spent a lot of time in the lounge-observation cars too. A superliner coach has five rest rooms on the lower level and I never had a wait to use one. Top speed for those trains seems to be 79mph, limited by track and signalling standards.

A string of scale Superliner cars would need a rather large layout to run on!

My photo at Dry Canyon trestle near Hotlum siding on the north slope of Mt Shasta in 2003.

Thanks for your comments!

Sorry, P51, it will be a coach car! perhaps later.....

jpv

Your work is inspiring!!!!!!   I need to transition and learn the skillset to continue on with the North Coast Limited I started and the pics of your printed parts leads me to believe that even this is possible.

jpv69 posted:

Sorry, P51, it will be a coach car! perhaps later.....

Maybe I missed that in an earlier post.

Great work so far, regardless!

Good stuff.  My family has taken several trips on Amtrak.  The most recent ones alas were Viewliners not Superliners.

Thanks to all; your photos are very useful for me too; I'm too far away to be nearby a superliner!!!

Next week I will send to my "3D guy" some .stl files for parts to make; I will show you as soon as he will return them to me. During that time, I will finish the partitions of the lower level.

jpv

Hello,

The blue colour was not satisfactory for me; so I looked again at the photos and saw that the colour was not like the real one. More the details I've made were too big! so I re-do once more all the partitions! now it's the last!

Two side views:

To be continued...

jpv in France

Watching and waiting . . .

Man, so much good work that'll never be seen once the car is done...

Amazing is the first thing that comes to my simple mind. Please continue to post your progress

Thanks all for your kind comments!

P51---> You are right, but if I put the seats in as planned, why not the partitions even they are not visible (perhaps a little bit when lights will be on)?

Here are other pieces for my "3D guy" to print:

the stairs:

and the lower part of the chassis (8 pieces)

See you soon

jpv

Wow, all that interior detailing! Can you build the car so the roof and upper level lift out to display the interior?

Yes, it's planned; look at the specifications (additif n°1 page 1) I posted some days ago; all is explained with 3D views.

And thanks for your reply.

jpv

Here are the low parts of the car for each side (300 mm long), between the trucks; strips are 1 x 0,5 mm with a space of 1 mm between each. The cutting is made for the doors.

See you soon

jpv

Workers came on a sunny sunday to lay the non-slip surface and the wall to wall carpet on the lower level!

Sorry for the blurred photos!!! I do my best but I'm not a genius for this!

See you soon

jpv

Yesterday and today's work:

The floor of the upper level, the bottom parts of the body I have re-done because the first ones were not as I thought and the ventilation grids:

A little closer

The grid is made with triangular strips (1mm) glued in the good direction (toward bottom!) to look like the real one:

I also received today the bottom parts for the chassis (3D printed); here are two parts among others:

And how will be fitted these parts to the bottom of the body (not yet glued!!)

That's all for today!

Tomorrow, beginning of the body with many many windows to cut!!!

jpv in France

Still watching, JP. 

Simply marvelous sir profound 

Many thanks to you!

One window, four round corners! not easy!!!! it will take a lot of my time, sure.....

Great work! It should be interesting to see how you obtain that aluminum finish on these cars.

Thank you, PRR,

To this day, I don't know exactly how to do this, to say the truth! I will go next week in a graphic arts shop close to my house where people is very competent and which has many and many  kinds of spray paints; as they have internet I will ask them to go on a superliner site and they can see with photos and compare with what they have. Hope to find what I wish! 

jpv

Check out Alclad II metalizer paints and finishes.  They have lots of different metal finishes from chrome to stainless to aluminum, plus window tints.  It's a multi-step process where the primer or base coat color can subtly affect the finish coat color.

AK Interactive has a similar system as well.  You can find plenty of youtube video tutorials for both as well as videos comparing results for both products.  Both products are very common with military models but obviously can be used for anything needing a realistic metal finish.

OGR member AntonioFP45 has a thread discussing the use of Alclad II.  I originally saw his posts on the old Atlas forum (in HO) and after that on the Atlas Rescue Forum.  You may find additional information on the process if you search those other forums.

I hope this gives you some ideas.  Who knows, perhaps you local supplier will recommend one or the other.  

Jim

Jim,

It's a very important information you gave to me and I thank you; there is a retailer here in France I know in Strasbourg; I will give him a call tomorrow.

jpv

I have had many difficulties with the first side of the car I've done yesterday (round corners not round, bad straight lines, etc... ): directly to the trashcan!!!

Here is the second one I made today; it's better! I also reduce the size of the strips to 0,5 x 0,5 mm; it's the most little I found.

This time the round corners are round!

jpv in France

Still watching. 

I know, Max, I know, but I hope you will be patient because I work slowly! 

First external face completed; the windows is another step, later.

The two remaining holes on the left side will be filled in with a 3D piece.

Sorry for the quality of the photos!