Originally Posted by willygee:
Originally Posted by bigdodgetrain:
Originally Posted by rtr12:
I just got a brand new Legacy SD70MAC diesel engine. Lubricated it and added smoke fluid to prepare for the first run. As soon as I put it on the track and got it added it started in with the dreaded three blinking cab lights telling me my smoke fan motor is not playing well with the other stuff. I have tried letting it set over night and multiple resets which is all I know how to do. I really don't want to send it back as that is a real PITA, I would really rather try and fix it myself. Anyone have any other suggestions so I can get my smoke unit working?
I think I have some MTH smoke fan motors, but no Lionel parts. I am thinking that purchasing a new smoke unit (if that is an option) would also probably be less than shipping and insurance to send it back.
Any and all advice appreciated. Thanks.
again we can help better with the 6- number.
my understanding is once you reset the engine 3 times it locks you out and Lionel must do the reset. someone correct me if I am wrong.
the entire smoke unit does not need replacing only the motor if it is determined it is bad, unless you have an mth motor then if it is open replace the motor.
my understanding is once you reset the engine 3 times it locks you out and Lionel must do the reset. someone correct me if I am wrong.
Is this true?
Yes and no. The 3 resets clear the problem and get rid of the blinking cab lights. When the power is cycled to the engine the sequence is restarted. You get 3 more tries. It continues this way until you fix the problem or turn off the smoke unit with the smk/no smk switch. It is stated in the manual that way with this engine so they must have updated it. There is no need to send it back to Lionel for reset after the 3 resets, just cycle the power. At least with this engine anyway.
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Here's the direct quote from the manual: "Note that smoke-related errors can be reset a maximum of three times. On the third try, if the problem still persists, the smoke unit will be shut down. After reaching the three-cycle limit, the power must be cycled (turn off and back on) and then you may try to reset three more times. If the problem persists it must be returned to a local Factory Trained Authorized Lionel Service Station or contact Lionel Customer Service for Repair.
Note: Turning the smoke unit switch to the off position will disable diagnostic checks of the smoke system." End quote from manual.
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To answer some other replies:
Geeze, I'm a stickler for the model number when someone asks a question too and I didn't include it Not sure what I was thinking when I posted? Probably wasn't thinking...or swearing at smoke unit and unfit for posting. My apologies for that one.
The engine in question is a Lionel SD70MAC #6-81138 Cab No. 9860 (< link) from the 2014 Signature Edition catalog. It was ordered almost a year ago and I got it late last week. Just un-boxed it for try out on Tuesday this week. It is brand new, not used.
I had the shell off last night, saw no obstructions or anything else that looked out of place. When operating the fan blade manually there was a little resistance, it did not seem to spin freely. It was not binding or hitting on anything. I worked it a few times and tried it again with no success. I was tired by that time and quit for the evening. Going to get into it a little deeper today.