@pd- Neat little Flyer flat car. Finding one with the load and the retention systems intact is really quite a find. Thanks for posting.
Don
Once again Don you have found yourself another "little beauty" from 90 odd years ago. You sure can pick them, and this one also appears to be holding its age very well.
Congratulations on find this elusive link to our model railroading past.
I hope to be able to post something Buco rare I have been chasing for a long time. It should arrive in the post in the next week or so.
Watch this space!!!
Peter......Buco Australia.
@Buco - Hey thanks Peter for your comment. I always look forward to your posts especially as we see so little Buco in my neighborhood. Best wishes.
Don
Hey Daniel.......you found one of them!!!
Did you buy for your collection?? It could be worth some money in many years time??????
On another note:
IT HAS ARRIVED!!!!!! The rare wooden wine barrel car from Buco.
What makes this wine barrel car so rare???......This is the only model Buco ever made of this car that had the actual wine makers name and shipping details lithographed on the side placard panels - front and rear.
Documented history on this specific model is a little sparce, but, to the best of my knowledge this wine manufacturer (SCHIESS A.G.) approached Buco (Bucherer) and asked if a "special Christmas run" could be made. They obliged, and I believe it was toward the end of the Buco empire (1956) that the wagon was released in very limited numbers.
All the other models of this car ever produced (hundreds and hundreds of them) had the standard "Buco" name and vague shipping details lithographed on the front and rear side placard panels.
I also have what I like to call another "special" Buco wine car. In all the years Buco have been making these double barrel wine cars, the catalogue number has never changed (8667), and has always been "burnt" into the end of each wooden barrel - at the bottom edge.
But I have a relatively new wine wagon built by Buco Spur O GmbH (the current successor producing the Buco products now) where the catalogue number has been "burnt" toward the top of the barrel, at each end.
The new production models all carry a "production number" engraved on the under-side of the metal chassis, and this one is #8667/3. I also have 8667/2 in my collection, being the second and third examples manufactured by the "new" Buco.
I have all the wine wagon variants produced by the different Buco manufacturers since 1947/48, to the latest company (Buco Spur O GmbH)
And then some
I think there are a couple more some where in other storage bins under the layout, and I will probably re-discover them when I go through the boxes looking for something.
Well that's it.....hope you tinplate tragic's enjoyed my "rare" Buco wine barrel car now relegated to the Australian Buco layout, and the rest of my Buco wine barrel cars already in service. DRINKS (wine) ARE ON ME!!!!
Peter.....Buco Australia.
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Hello Peter,
Value for me is not important, I will keep this car with others and run it.
You have got a rare model of wine car, congratulations; it makes me think that I have one since many years and never noticed that it was something special ......
here it is
It seems to be the same car you just collected no ?
Daniel
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Well thanksgiving is our day to trim the tree and make the train layout. Here we are getting the trains out and testing the track. We will place the tree today and trim, after the trimming is done the kids will finish laying out the houses and train decorations. HAPPY THANKSGIVINGS ! and share your train traditions.
Tomorrow I’ll post the final with videos
special thanks to everyone who has help me on my journey in restoring my tinplates. What a great bunch of people you are. I am truly thankful for finding this forum. This hobby has helped me maintain a relationship with my kids and was at times the only link I had during those troubling teen years. No matter how heated life became we all-way came together for the Christmas train layout and tree trimming. I have learned to let them express themself and not to be critical of ideas and comments. It all works out. 
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@Buco…The story of the barrel cars was great and congratulations on finding that very rare one. Best wishes and may you and yours have a “barrel” of good wishes this holiday season. All the best. Don.
Yes Daniel......you are also very lucky and have one of these "rare" Buco wine barrel cars in your collection. That is two Buco cars that you have that are "different" from the rest. Look after them and enjoy them!!!
Don.....the turkey tasted just great yesterday (it's Friday down here now). Please enjoy your Thanksgiving Day.
Happy Thanksgiving Day to all of my great American OGR Forum friends!!!
Peter......Buco Australia.
@Buco - Hey its Friday now Peter, so we are both equally "stuffed". Glad you participated in Thanksgiving, even if only in your imagination. Best to you for the holidays.
Don
Well its now December and we are deep into "Train Month" for we have always identified trains with Christmas. I had a recent bit of luck, I noticed a Hornby locomotive (101 Tank loco) on E-bay and its condition seemed excellent. This was several days before the end of the auction. Just to keep getting notified of developments in the bidding, I threw in a casual (low) bid and then with all the Thanksgiving hulla-ba-loo I forgot about it. Low and behold, I get a notice just after Thanksgiving that I have won the auction, with my very low, forgotten bid! WOW, I received the locomotive last Friday and its everything I might have hoped for AND it came in its original Hornby box! It only cost an amazing $26! This for a locomotive nearly NIB from 1950, as you can guess I am really pleased. So here is her picture (she is clockwork like many Hornby trains). I have her posed with some Hornby No 1 LNER coaches from the same time period, they date from 1951-1958.
Best Wishes and Happy Holidays to All
Don
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Don McErlean WOW, what a surprise! Congratulations Don.
As both a Frisco and Ives fan, I have been on the lookout for this Ives boxcar for a while. The roof has been repainted, but that's OK, glad to have this car in the collection:
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And another "little stunner" Don!!! You sure can pick em.
Congratulations on yet another great find.....considering it came all the way "across the pond", and half way across the great US of A to find a new home with you.
Peter.....Buco Australia.
Really good catch's there @Don McErlean and James @WindupGuy
Christmas has come early for you both by the looks ?
I must not have been too bad this year because Santa ( My wallet lol ) has lined up a couple of "presents" for me this year too
A little Post War Karl Bub Animated Circus train set , please excuse the placement of the tender lol , ebay sellers just dont care in their photos 
Not super rare but uncommon in very good condition ... they are very cheaply made this one is only missing one axle from the seal car but otherwise looks to be very good . The Clown driving it pops up at regular intervals and the animals sway back and forth driven by a lower tab that hits the track sleepers
A retake on the super rare 1930's version ( of which I also have the locomotive but no carriages )
Just a fun thing 
In much nastier condition is an O Gauge Sakai Standard locomotive and tender I only won today, however it will go into the fixer-upper file for a repaint to match some really nice carriages I have owned for years that have been waiting for him to come along ... Super bargain at only 50AUD + post ( I think?)
Some days you have to accept what the train gods offer up to you 
Aforementioned pristine carriages awaiting some motive power !
Hello Guys, it seems the season is excellent for many of us, that is really nice to see all those nice finds.
For me it has been also a really uncomon discover in France of an American Flyer train. And believe me it is really exceptionnal, the only AF pieces you may find are post war S gauge models. So it came home with me for a low ball as Don, and it is in good running condition.
This one, not really sure if it could have been an original set is from, I think.... , 1921-22 ???
All my best wishes, Daniel
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@FRENCHTRAINS- Daniel what a great find. My reference material tentatively identifies your loco as the American Flyer 1101 Steeple Cab, black body, red window frames etc uncatalogued from..."the 1920's" no more specific date. It shows your passenger cars as #1201 "Lightning Bolt" cars which were also first catalogued in 1918-1919. The red bodied cars came first with a later switch to brown. Your baggage car, #1204 Lightning Bolt Baggage was similarly first cataloged in 1918-1919 but seems to have been only available in brown as yours shows.
I have no further information on early AF "sets" however given the common dates for their production period, coming as a set would be most possible. Nonetheless a GREAT find!!
@Jerry Williams & @Buco- Thanks for your comment on my new LNER locomotive. Appreciate what you both said.
@WindupGuy-Way to go! That is a great boxcar and looks to be in really fine shape.
@Fatman- Thanks for your comment on my new loco and WHAT A FIND!! I really LOVE that Bub animal train. The lithography is fantastic. So colorful and animated with action. Really a super toy train. I agree with your comment on being hard to find in good shape. Toys like you found were normally inexpensive and when the children stopped playing with them, they were not carefully wrapped up and stored like expensive trains, but were often just thrown away. Yours looks to be in almost perfect condition. Looks like the Saki locomotive will be a project for sure, but its fun to finally find a locomotive suitable for those beautiful coaches.
Best Wishes for the Holidays everyone!!
Don
@Don McErlean Many thanks Don, very interesting, the number on the loco is 1201, not very easy to see on my picture as it is a little fadded.
American Flyer is not always easy to understand, so many variations.
Near the same guy I picked another set of AF cars, smaller than the previous ones. Maybe they are from the same period , unfortunately no loco to match with. I was thinking maybe buying a small clockwork one to match those little cars but what model.....
Anyway I find them really beautiful and the lithos is great. Less spectacular than @Fatman circus train which is really wonderfull.
Very best, Daniel
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@FRENCHTRAINS - Daniel, the 1201 is virtually the same locomotive as the 1101 except it came in more than the red/black color scheme. The 1201, an 8" steeple cab, was cataloged from 1920-1924. Its first variety is the black / red combination of your locomotive. Now originally the 1201 had no headlight and no hole in the body for one, however it is reported that some 1201's were modified at the factory to have a headlight. The 1921version had the bell at the rear and the 1924 version had the bell at the front. The other color is a dark green body.
Here is what I have on your 1107 cars. Note this is just a guess as Flyer made many, many variations of these little passenger cars many of them numbered 1107. Looking at your pictures these are the descriptions I found that seemed the closest and the dates that seem to match. All passenger cars listed below are numbered 1107.
1. Ca 1918-20 Peachy yellow body with red and white details, black roof, dark green road name, herald and number.
2.Ca 1918 -20 Red body with yellow trim and yellow number. blue herald and black roof, door windows not punched out.
3. Ca 1918-20 Baltimore and Ohio, Ca 1918-20. Blue body with red and yellow trim, black detailing and roof, yellow road name and number, door windows not punched out
4. Baggage Car, Ca 1918-20 , American Flyer Line on letter board, American Express Co in white rectangle at left and right, Express Baggage beneath , yellow 1108 left and right, 5 panel yellow door.
Comment from reference: My reference is : Greenberg's Guide to American Flyer Prewar O gauge by Alan R. Schuweiler, 1997
Ca 1917-1922 American Flyer offered sets with only 1107 passenger cars, as well as combining different color baggage and passenger cars so there are not always baggage cars that exactly match the passenger cars.
Sorry for the long message, I hope this might help. I really enjoyed doing this little bit of research, you have some great cars and these little 1107 cars are some of the very early Flyer passenger cars. Great Find!!
Best Wishes
Don
@Don McErlean Thanks so much again Don, I really enjoy learning some AF history; it's extremely rare as I said before to find such pieces in France, now since the internet it is different of course but there is no many collectors having an interest for Flyer here, only Lionel.
Thosemodels came from a very old collection, the owner passed thirty years ago and the family kept them in storage as they have no interest for trains.
All my best wishes, Daniel
Hey Fatman......good to hear from you again, and I just love that highly decorated circus train!!! It is bright and colorful, and looks in fabulous condition for its age!!!
I also have some O gauge tinplate Sakai, but they are only the H P caboose cars, and I think I have about five or six of them, remnants from my childhood.
Daniel......your collection of AF tinplate in France is exceptional......most of the AF trains they ever produced didn't make it to Australia either.....so they are rare here as well!!
And Don....what can I say.....your are "the man" when it comes to stats on anything American Flyer....thank you for your vast knowledge.
I have just received some more Buco tinplate loco's, and bits and pieces from my friend in Switzerland - Beat Joller (aka "Jomo" on the Ricardo Swiss auction site).
Two 301 loco's (0 4 0 wheel configuration) and two 304 loco's (2 4 2 configuration), as well as a passenger car, a bare freight chassis with wheels, and a sub-frame for a 301 loco.
All of the loco's are running (sort of) and will be stripped, cleaned, and parts replaced (where necessary) to bring them back to pristine operating condition.
On a very sad note, after sending an E-mail to Beat this last Monday (9th December) to let him know I had received the loco's safe and well, I received an E-mail from his son the very next day to inform me that his father passed away suddenly on 2nd December, shortly after posting the loco's to me.
I am, and I still remain shattered!!!!
RIP Beat Joller, my very dear friend!!!!
Peter.......Buco Australia.
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Peter your post has both good and bad news. Good first those Buco engines look like the will make great additions to your collection. Now to the sad. I am very sorry to hear of your friend. You can never replace a life long friend all you can do is honor and remember them.
All the best my friend
Don
Very sorry to hear of your mate's passing, Buco. Run the trains and think of your good friend often, and hoist a pint in his memory at the first and every opportunity!
PD
Thank you Don and pd for your kind words.
Peter......Buco Australia.
Here is a video of a restoration of a Hornby windup shared by a member of another forum.
Oh and PS .. nice bloody locos!
One day I will find a little Buco of my own 
Hey guys - Always checking in, you guys are amazing collectors and fonts of knowledge. It is a delight to see how much interest you have in the hobby. I really like Daniel’s American Flyer set found in Europe, that is super cool.
Just cleaned the pad after FFEMA left an orange sticker on my door declaring it a disaster area, ok it was time. Just got thru a big job & got a tad behind there. Got my dance floor back but not doing the floor layout this year, I’m motivated to building a layout for my prewar standard gauge trains. Get my butt off the floor and sitting on a high stool playing with trains, like a real man haha.
When I get it built I’ll get the gang back together and we will build an empire… the Lake Villa Central RR Ok, we’ll see about that. All my hands have been on high stools for too long, time to put a hammer in their hands again or against their heads and build a railroad we can be proud of.
The LVCRR - I like it!
I love this plan, should be fun. I’ll post when I have trains running.
Keep going! Cheers W1
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Tinplate Christmas let’s see those prewar roll.
Sorry for the tardy reply Fatman. Life has been getting in the way at the moment.
Thank you for your very timely and kind words.....there is two things we can be sure of....death and taxes!!!
Stay safe and well during our current "heat wave" Fatman....and a very Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you.
Peter.......Buco Australia.
@Michael Roth posted:Tinplate Christmas let’s see those prewar roll.
Lionel 290E set under the Christmas tree:
It's 1936 this year...
PD
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@pd- Hey Mate! that beautiful thing under the tree is "Outfit" # 290E right? Pulled by the 259E locomotive in black with the 654 Oil, 651 Flat and 657 Caboose. 1936-37 Catalog Beautiful display @pd I have a similar set and I am just interested in confirming its heritage. Merry Christmas!
Best Wishes
Don
Hey guys - Awesome collecting and sharing of knowledge. I think all I need to complete my collection of Lionel standard gauge 500 freights is a 514R refrigerator car cream with a blue roof all original in mint condish… There has to be one out there haha. I know they exist. One of these days…
Tho there is a rogue 515 tank car - yellow Sunoco I think… Might be a stretch for Santa, I don’t know if I was a good enough boy for one of those to be left in my stocking.
Plan going forward is to build a layout, I think I got it figured out. Onward towards the fog…
Merry Xmas all you crazy train nuts!
Cheers. W1
@William 1 - Well here is some news you might be able to use:
1. In 1927-1928 There was a refrigerator car labeled 514 (NO R) The only difference between it and the 514 R was the "R" on the name plate. In 1929 Lionel replaced the 514 Reefer with the 514R Reefer which allowed it to use the 514 number for a box car. This car came in 3 schemes (all available in 1927-1928 ) Dark Pearl / Peacock roof ; Pearl / Peacock roof ; and Cream / Flat green roof
2. In 1929 Lionel issued the 514R which through the years came in a surprising number of color variations, especially in the 1929-1934 era. It came in Light Pearl, Cream, Ivory or White body with Peacock, Peacock, Light Peacock, and Peacock roofs. Then in 1935 came perhaps the most common reefer, the White / Lt. Blue roof car which was available 1935 -1940, always with Ni trim.
3 Now to the 515 Tank Car...if you are interested in variations, my reference source states that there are 22 known variations of the 515 car, more than for any other 500 series car. The earliest is a terra - cotta car with no oil company decal available from 1927-1929. Then came a series of Ivory tank cars, some with "Sunoco" decals and some with no decals. Finally in about 1935 things settled down and we had the well known Silver Tank with Sunoco decal 1935-1940 and then your "rouge" tank car, the Orange Tank with Shell decal available 1936-1940. I have a terra-cotta one, do not have a silver one and most certainly do not have an orange one!!
4. The Shell tank car is indeed a considerable rarity. To give you an example, the David Doyle "Guide to Prewar Lionel Trains" gives a value in LN condition for the ivory or silver car as $225 with a rarity of 4 (out of 8) however for the orange tank car its $725 with a rarity of 6. Now I list these prices not because they are absolutely correct, but just to illustrate the difference in pricing / rarity.
So Good Hunting.
Don
@Don McErlean posted:@pd- Hey Mate! that beautiful thing under the tree is "Outfit" # 290E right? Pulled by the 259E locomotive in black with the 654 Oil, 651 Flat and 657 Caboose. 1936-37 Catalog Beautiful display @pd I have a similar set and I am just interested in confirming its heritage. Merry Christmas!
Best Wishes
Don
That’s correct, Don, outfit 290E from 1936/37. The 259E is in gunmetal with the thick nickel-rimmed drivers. Fun stuff.
Have a terrific Christmas!
PD
The very rare Paya M10000 streamliner from ca 1991 in action. This runs full throttle; 22 volts on my Z4000 transformer.
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@pd- Thanks for the confirmation on that set mate! Don
@cbq9911a- WOW...FAST!!! Not seen one before and certainly never saw one in action. Thanks for the video - Don
