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 The   groove edges will round off slowly (years) and it may not hold tires as well once worn. 

   Track can sink into the grooves and cause wheel to bind on rail in curves. 

    I ran a 4-4-2 without a tire for about a year and one day it acted like it hit a brick wall it stopped so fast.   It even needed  a little wiggle to get it off the 0-27 track as the rail really wedged itself into the groove nicely .  Tube track too; I imagine on flat rail or even full O, it would be even more prone to doing that.  

Other engines had narrower grooves and so wedging was impossible, tire not really important except to give traction. 

Adriatic posted:

 The   groove edges will round off slowly (years) and it may not hold tires as well once worn. 

   Track can sink into the grooves and cause wheel to bind on rail in curves. 

    I ran a 4-4-2 without a tire for about a year and one day it acted like it hit a brick wall it stopped so fast.   It even needed  a little wiggle to get it off the 0-27 track as the rail really wedged itself into the groove nicely .  Tube track too; I imagine on flat rail or even full O, it would be even more prone to doing that.  

Other engines had narrower grooves and so wedging was impossible, tire not really important except to give traction. 

...wow...   

Mark in Oregon

Jim R. posted:

When my tires wear out, I haven’t been replacing them. My MTH Premier Hiawatha Atlantic runs a little bumpy through the club’s GarGraves switches, but I haven’t had any problems on flat grades.

When did MTH make a Premier Hiawatha Atlantic? They made a premier Hiawatha Hudson, a tinplate/diecast Hiawatha Atlantic with and without PS-2, and several iterations of a RailKing Hiawatha Hudson.

Lionel made a scale streamlined Hiawatha Atlantic in 2007 and the repop of the 1937 tinplate/diecast Hiawatha Atlantic in 1988 (probably made by MTH).

Pride Lines also made a few versions of the tinplate/diecast Hiawatha Atlantic.

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RoyBoy posted:
Jim R. posted:

When my tires wear out, I haven’t been replacing them. My MTH Premier Hiawatha Atlantic runs a little bumpy through the club’s GarGraves switches, but I haven’t had any problems on flat grades.

When did MTH make a Premier Hiawatha Atlantic? They made a premier Hiawatha Hudson, a tinplate/diecast Hiawatha Atlantic with and without PS-2, and several iterations of a RailKing Hiawatha Hudson.

Lionel made a scale streamlined Hiawatha Atlantic in 2007 and the repop of the 1937 tinplate/diecast Hiawatha Atlantic in 1988 (probably made by MTH).

Pride Lines also made a few versions of the tinplate/diecast Hiawatha Atlantic.

Wow. Brain not working this weekend. (Family issues.) 

You are correct, of course. I have the Lionel Atlantic from 2007 and I’m hunting for the MTH Premier Hudson (for the right price).

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