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This was NOS, and it ran fine for about 30 days.  I just found that the power truck (cab end) is locked up.  I removed the truck and cannot turn the wheels.   

Is there any way I might fix it?  I can't see anything jammed in the gears (external) or the worm gear which seems fine.  Am I just going to have to replace the power truck?

And- assuming I tried to run this  briefly, before I noticed it was jammed, is there likely other damage,  such as the motor?  The LionDrive drive system is no longer used as far as I know.  Is this a problem drive system??  

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Mike I'm not a diesel guy, but as far as I know the LionDrive system is still being used by Lionel to this day. 

The problem I've read about on the forum is that often one or more axles have too much side-to-side play, which causes the gears to wear uneven, disengage or even come off of their studs.  This problem isn't caused by LionDrive per se.  Hopefully others will chime in with a solution, besides just buying a new truck block from Lionel.

OK- I think I figured everything out.  There is a small gear third aft in the chain between the main drive gear and the wheel.  That third gear in the chain had somehow frozen on its shaft. 

I pulled it from the frame (it's held in place by a knurl) took the gear off the shaft and polished the shaft using a Dremel wire wheel.   Oiled it, and pressed it back into the frame.  It LOOKS like it will work.

The red circle in a photo below of an earlier GP-9 shows the location of the frozen gear.  We'll see if the re-press holds, or if I have to use JB Weld or something to hold it in place.

 

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@RickO Mike re-used that photo from an earlier post to illustrate his point.  That's not his loco; his doesn't seem to have a wide axle.

I'm more curious about what caused the gear to seize up.  Lack of lubrication?  Or did it wear oval and get cocked because the rear axle IS geared too wide, allowing it to wobble and partially disengage.  Is there a lot of slop Mike?  Or is it still a tight fit on the stud??  It might be instructive to compare the gauge of the adjacent wheelset to the other three on your loco.

There was no visible damage or wear to the shaft or the inside bore of the gear.  But it DID appear "dry"- as if the mfg. did not lube it at the factory.  It seemed to polish up completely.  All the teeth on that gear and the mating one appear fine after cleaning (plastic-safe contact cleaner).  And of course I did lubricate it and all others (light oil) as I re-assembled.

I ordered a new truck ($42) from Lionel- two main reasons- should this one fail again, and the fact that I have TWO of these GP9s, both NOS but some 12 years old.

I really like these locomotives.  And I can't rely on a long-term availability of these trucks.

Lesson: be sure to follow my normal practice.  Run a new loco out of the box to make sure all is OK electrically etc., then do a full lubrication.  

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