It occurs to me that if they widened all three throttles that little train would accelerate like a 283 Chevy 
Lew
I especially enjoyed the enthusiasm and positivity expressed in the comments of the UP and several public officials at Cheyenne, WY about the visit of the 4014 and company in the UP Video. On that note, let us follow suit here by refraining from the snarky comments about individuals, and focus instead on the success of this project! THANK YOU! ☺
Kelly Anderson posted:Can't help but notice that TrainOrders has gone very quiet today on the subject of #4014.
As one of the people who may have come across as critical (but is not on Trainorders), I will say that it appears I was wrong to insinuate that 4014 would not move under her own power. That said, I will stand by my attempt to clarify Rich and Jack's position on the restoration. I am happy to see that there is another steam locomotive out there and operating on the mainline.
"Ed, shouted out a me with a grin and said quote 'Tell Wheelihan I said hi !'"
LOL.
My video from Harrison Wyoming on Saturday May 4th. Time for an external mic. The Sony Action Cam buried in the ballast could have been aimed better. Oh well. Next time. Not sure why 4014 was slipping? Weird 
Kelly Anderson posted:I just watched this video and took this screen shot.
That can't be #4014, I was assured that there is no way that #4014 could have jacketing in the cab. Look pretty nicely done as well.
Cool video, and yes, the jacketing looks very neatly done.
Also,at the 3:05 mark, I see a tremendous amount of smoke. Since it is impossible that this is coming from the #4014, as it was reported that she would be shoved by a diesel, someone should notify UP that the diesel pusher has apparently blown its engine.
This youtube video, posted a few minutes ago(as of May 6 late AM MT) , certainly makes it look like 4014 is working. Lotsa
smoke and chuffing. 
Kelly Anderson posted:I just watched this video and took this screen shot.
That can't be #4014, I was assured that there is no way that #4014 could have jacketing in the cab. Look pretty nicely done as well.
That is what was infuriating to me personally. I was talked down to by someone on this thread who should (does) know better. When I pointed out, to that person, what should be obvious.
Tinplate Art posted:Was someone perhaps having a little joke with us?
Kelly forgetted the snark tags
Lew
Terry Danks posted:This youtube video, posted a few minutes ago(as of May 6 late AM MT) , certainly makes it look like 4014 is working. Lotsa
smoke and chuffing.
Oh ya! He was assuredly working steam. Good clear stack so it looks like they have the oil-firing dialed-in. Hmmm. Don't I remember prognostications of Doom here wrt the oil conversion?
Lew
MJCAT posted:Kelly Anderson posted:I just watched this video and took this screen shot.
That can't be #4014, I was assured that there is no way that #4014 could have jacketing in the cab. Look pretty nicely done as well.
Cool video, and yes, the jacketing looks very neatly done.
Also,at the 3:05 mark, I see a tremendous amount of smoke. Since it is impossible that this is coming from the #4014, as it was reported that she would be shoved by a diesel, someone should notify UP that the diesel pusher has apparently blown its engine.
Too funny, yes several units needed to load them down!!
Looks like 4014's putting in some effort in this one:
Here are still shots from TRAINS' editor Jim Wrinn's ride in 4014's cab yesterday.
His account is well worth reading and watching.
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yankspride4 posted:Looks like 4014's putting in some effort in this one:
I'm not seeing it.
Sure, it's under its own power (which I think is great), but it doesn't appear to be working hard at all--something we were told to expect.
Here's an intentionally funny photo, a local Walmart along the route let all their cashiers go on break to catch the Big Boy rolling by... 
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I can't tell you how grateful I am to Gary, Kent, Eric, and the multitude of others that are participating in this thread. I cannot get enough of this event. I've been following on Facebook via the UP Steam page and Trains. Spectacular videos and pictures!
MARTYE: THANK YOU, SIR, for posting those cab shots! ☺
MartyE posted:I can't tell you how grateful I am to Gary, Kent, Eric, and the multitude of others that are participating in this thread. I cannot get enough of this event. I've been following on Facebook via the UP Steam page and Trains. Spectacular videos and pictures!
Thank-you Marty E.
Gary
smd4 posted:yankspride4 posted:Looks like 4014's putting in some effort in this one:
I'm not seeing it.
Sure, it's under its own power (which I think is great), but it doesn't appear to be working hard at all--something we were told to expect.
Used "some" as an operative word...didn't look like she was pounding away, but not mailing it in either.
Tinplate Art posted:I may very well be slow on the uptake, but I am still confused. What EXACTLY does that cab shot belong to? THANKS!
The cab shot is 4014. The crew obviously worked quite quickly, and a few other photos and videos on this thread showcase the cab of 4014 with jacketing.
Borden Tunnel posted:Here's an intentionally funny photo, a local Walmart along the route let all their cashiers go on break to catch
Walmart located where?
Does anyone have knowledge of how the Big Boy is doing so far?
It appears 4014 is on schedule with a two day break now in Evanston, WY. Is it meeting its performance expectations, any tweaks required, etc.? What kind of shop does UP have in Evanston?
Thanks to all of you who are posting pictures and videos! An amazing sight seeing one of these machines running. And thanks again to the entire steam crew!!
In one of the video's Ed Dickens said at the time their not putting the Big Boy to it full potential do to several new parts that need to be broke in.
THANKS to ALL for posting update videos and photos, as well as informative commentary on this landmark steam event. It is appreciated! ☺
I haven’t followed this thread but in scrolling through some of it I see statements which point out that there is no room under the plumbing to install the jacket or, there is no time to remove all that stuff to apply the jacketing. I don’t understand the logic being applied here since the intent has always been to install as much plumbing and tubing under the jacket as possible, so of course most or even all of the plumbing is installed before the jacket. The jacket has splices and holes of course for ease of installation around plumbing or tubing that goes out into the cab, and in the case of a large valve handle, it is no big deal to remove the valve handle to allow slipping the jacket over the valve. It is certainly not necessary or even the intent to remove the majority of everything that has been applied to the backhead.
And why do a lot of people hide behind screen names?
Jim Kreider
JIM: Hiding behind screen names is a longtime OGR Forum tradition. Some folks are shy, others cautious. It is all good!
STANDARD GAUGE: WELL STATED! Steve Lee is most assuredly one of the GOOD GUYS! I met him in the early 1990's, when the 3985 came to Tennessee on its way to pose as a Clinchfield engine. I ran into Steve in Bruceton, TN (known to TN railroaders as Hollow Rock Junction) and he was a very impressive individual. I chased the 3985 back to Nashville, and played hookey from my teaching job to watch it leave town the next morning!
One time 3985 was in Houston. I remembered she was at one time displayed at the Amtrak station in Cheyenne. Saw Steve Lee, and told him about seeing the 3985 at the station, and thanks for bringing 3985 to life.
I think if the 3985 and those who retored and ran her might have gotten more respect, it eould have been better PR for the BB restoration.
Dominic Mazoch posted:
"I think if the 3985 and those who retored (restored) and ran her might have gotten more respect"
More respect related to what? Seriously, do you have any insight that might be helpful for our forum regarding this comment and to further the discussion?
"it eould (could) have been better PR for the BB restoration"
From hobbyist to elected officials, prime time television, news and radio. International (on site) coverage/local to remote coverage, even a few Walmart workers , have all been shown, quoted, photographed, recorded communicating face-to-face, and found logging into many, many on-line chat/message forums... all due to the Bigboy and the related stories.
How could the PR for UP been measurably better in regards to the former 3985 crew?
Thanks Dom.
Charlie
Jim Kreider posted:And why do a lot of people hide behind screen names?
Jim Kreider
After about 10 yrs on computers, my intro to the net was a hacking situation.
All back when it was green screens and simply consisted of designated dial-up lines between servers at a few colleges. Students only(mostly electrical engineering classes) It was a hacking fued for line time between a U of M dungeon&dragons group and a Wisc. railroad modeling group (I was brought in to answer RR questions for the D&D folk). They would lock each other out of thier computers, unlocking the unit only once a series of questions on the opposing hobby were answered correctly. The RR folks got evil first after questions got answered so quickly... it spiraled into virus exchange.
I've been hacked 6 times at least, some mild, some not so mild; leaving me wondering how I was going to eat.
Why make it easy on vindictive idiots? Make them work for it at least 🤣
'Nuff said ?🤔
Besides, One of a handful in a lifetime offline as well, I like my nicknames 😁
Some more shots from this morning and last few days.
My photography team was Don Hagen of Quality Railfan Images, Howard Shapiro (OGR member: Marker), myself.
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Tinplate Art posted:MARTYE: THANK YOU, SIR, for posting those cab shots! ☺
I don't see any cab shots that Marty posted... 
Susan Deats posted:Borden Tunnel posted:Here's an intentionally funny photo, a local Walmart along the route let all their cashiers go on break to catch
Walmart located where?
Evanston,WY. your welcome
thats alot of engines
smd4 posted:Why don't they just make a 10 or 15 pound reduction on the automatic brake and give the train some resistance for the engine to pull against?
Well, for one thing it creates unnecessary wear on the brake shoes and could lead to a sliding wheel. Not to mention it is just poor train handling, especially when you have a diesel for dynamic braking to create a load if that is really so desired. You absolutely don't want to be dragging cars around all day with the brakes applied!
Big Jim posted:smd4 posted:Why don't they just make a 10 or 15 pound reduction on the automatic brake and give the train some resistance for the engine to pull against?
Well, for one thing it creates unnecessary wear on the brake shoes and could lead to a sliding wheel. Not to mention it is just poor train handling, especially when you have a diesel for dynamic braking to create a load if that is really so desired. You absolutely don't want to be dragging cars around all day with the brakes applied!
Not talking "all the time." Just for show. We would do it for photo run-bys.
Well, this video posted to Facebook this morning seems to absolutely smash any doubt of how they are working the locomotive. It’s definitely worth a look and listen!
mark s posted:C-Span covered the Big Boy restoration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSG2v7uZjz4
Ed Dickens, for my money, is a very good spokesman for the project and the railroad.
Here in Chicago, News Radio 780, WBBM, just mentioned the restoration and first run of the "world's largest steam locomotive", number forty fourteen". Of course it would be better expressed four thousand fourteen, but nice that it is getting national recognition, I am sure more media coverage will come. Hope CNBC and Bloomberg financial stations give a nod, too ! The investment world likes the Union Pacific.
Forty-Fourteen is absolutely correct.
You say Thirty-nine eighty-five, not Thirty-nine-hundred eighty-five, right?
Whenever I hear railroaders refer to a 4-digit locomotive number they always express it as XX XX.
3-digit numbers are expressed as X XX as in Eight Forty-four.
The one thing I will never say is "Living Legend" 844. I can't stand that corny Marketing Department tripe.
Nick - using 40 instead of 4 thousand is a product of the diesel era. Soulless machines like diesels are just digits on an accountant's ledger; steam locomotives have personalities. We are so far removed from the steam era that practices of that time period are forgotten/lost. I recall Burlington Hudson 3001 which ran in fan trip service in 1958 - it was always referred to as "3 thousand one", never "30-oh-one" ! That was showing proper respect to a monarch !
mark s posted:Nick - using 40 instead of 4 thousand is a product of the diesel era.
It is not, at least not on the MoPac or the Frisco. Even the Frisco Pacifics numbered in the 1000 series were always the "ten hundreds." The only engine on either RR that I know was called "x-thousand" was the experimental "six thousand," a MoPac one-off, 3-cylinder that was rebuilt into a regular 2-cylinder with poppet valves and then renumbered and properly called "sixty oh one."
GENTLEMEN: Why quibble over the semantics of numbers, when there is so MUCH else to embrace about this event? Call the Big Boy whatever you wish, it is still a GRAND machine! ☺
