I am making another attempt at using Scarm. Right off the bat, I can't figure out how to portray the table size on the screen. It might be called Room size on the Scarm program, I'm not sure.
Can the image be rotated ?
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In the toolbox, there is a "baseboard" (table) tool. This is layout the table. You have to use the arrow in the toolbox to select.
There are three types- rectangle -absolute coordinates - displacements. I use rectangle and abs. coordinates the most.
Here is a link to SCARM tutorials, from SCARM help
The baseboard can be rotated.
Dan, there is a difference between defining the entire room and the "baseboard" for the layout. Since you mentioned "table size", I'll assume you mean the baseboard. Here's how to draw a simple horseshoe with 30" sides in a 12'x10' space:
-- Convert the 12'x10' measurements to 144"x120".
-- SCARM opens with a very small workspace. Zoom out so the top ruler shows more that 144 and the left ruler more that 120.
-- Open the toolbox.
---- menu/tools/toolbox or the little toolbox icon on the menu bar, 3rd from the right.
-- Click the little down arrow where it says "Start point" and select "Baseboard (abs coordinates)".
-- In each of the next steps, enter the first number in the "X" field and the second number in the "Y" field and then click the "+" button.
---- 0 : 0
---- 144 : 0
---- 144 : 120
---- 114 : 120
---- 114 : 30
---- 30 : 30
---- 30 :120
--- 0 : 120
-- You should now see a horseshoe without a line down the left side.
-- Click the "Done" button and to complete the horseshoe.
You can draw any shape you want, but the lines cannot cross each other. The simplest way for me is to draw the basic shape on paper and then write down the coordinates for each point. Unlike graph paper, SCARM places the X:Y coordinates in the upper left. Positive X values go from left to right (same as graph paper), but positive Y coordinates go "down" from top to bottom (the opposite of graph paper).
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Dave
That's very helpful for me. I've been doing free hand and have a lot of trouble getting exact X and Y co-ordinates. I've used Tool Box to place track and didn't know it could be used for baseboard.
Hah, new feature of the rotate updates?
Moonman posted:Hah, new feature of the rotate updates?
I'm not sure. I remember trying to rotate the baseboard, but couldn't unless I used the "Select All" menu option. I think that was before the update, but now you can select just the baseboard and rotate it. That's very helpful for me because I like the longest side along the horizontal plane to give me the largest workspace on my laptop screen.
Oman posted:Dave
That's very helpful for me. I've been doing free hand and have a lot of trouble getting exact X and Y co-ordinates. I've used Tool Box to place track and didn't know it could be used for baseboard.
The key for me was thinking in terms of inches and realizing the Y coordinates go down instead of up, the opposite of most graphs, like the stock market. 
Dave, I don't see the toolbox on my version.
Dan Padova posted:Dave, I don't see the toolbox on my version.
Ok, try selecting Tools on the menu bar and then Toolbox.
BTW, all versions of SCARM are free, so you really should download the latest to get all the capabilities.
I tried looking for tools in the menu bar without success.
Would you have a link to the newest version ? On second thought, it's really not worth the effort. I had great difficulty downloading the version I have.
Not sure what problems you had downloading, but just in case, here's the link:
Hi Dave, the issue I had am am having using the link you provided is that once I click on the link, it brings me to this page,
http://www.scarm.info/index.php#download
If I click the word 'Download" it brings me to the list of track types further down the page. So I clicked on Lionel O and this page comes up,
http://www.scarm.info/index.php?lib-info=Lionel-O.lib
Here is where I am lost.
Dan, glad you posted back, I see the problem you're having and I see why. I circled what you need to click on to start the download. The libraries are included in the full download, so the only time you need to download one of those is if a new one gets added and an old one gets updated without a program update. Anyway, click on what I circled and let me know if it works. After the download completes, Windows should ask if you want to Run it or something like that (not sure what version of Windows you are using). Click Run, answer Yes or whatever to start the install.
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Click on HELP and then updates.
Good point, Keith, though I'm not sure his version has that option.
Did I mention that I am on a MAC ? The download only wants to work with Windows, etc.
I thought we addressed this awhile ago saying you need to do this using a Windows emulator on your Mac. Maybe that was someone else??? Oh well, at least we tried and if you ever try it with an emulator, you should have the instructions you need. Not sure it's worth all that for the layout you're designing though. I'll be happy to make any changes you want to the designs I've posted, just let me know.
Thanks for all of your time and effort Dave.
Not a problem at all Dan, always glad to help and it didn't take any time at all. I was watching my recording of the NHRA races in Houston this weekend and there's a lot of "dead" time where it's just talking heads.
