Weekend tinplate photos/videos 8/19/16!!

You did a great job on that taxi Chris!

This week I have observation car decks in Standard Gauge!

david

Its the Tinplate Weekend, my favorite part of the week.   

When I first saw this project on the forum several weeks ago I was intrigued.  It just looked so right.

Apparently I wasn't the only one, because several folk have produced their own versions of it.  I was very tempted to go to ebay, find a tower and add one of my Erector MX shacks to it.  I even have a couple of them on my ebay watch list.  However there was just something disturbing about combining a Gilbert Erector building on top of a Lionel tower.    I'm not really a snob when it comes to having Lionel, Ives, Marx or other manufacturers in my American Flyer collection.  But deep inside of me there was a disturbance and a voice that kept saying "What about 769, what about 769?"  So I went searching through the boxes of my stored S gauge collection and found what I was looking for:

Here we have a Gilbert Erector shack atop a Gilbert American Flyer revolving beacon tower.  Yes it fits on the Gilbert towers too.

Balance has been restored to the force.   

Have a great tinplate weekend.

Greg

Northwoods Flyer

Your observation cars are great David!

French postal cars have an attractive red color; here are some lithographed  tinplate examples from JEP from smallest to larger:

Have a nice tinplate weekend.

Regards

Fred

hojack posted:

david

David,

Awesome photos as usual. Are those PE cars from the G gauge set? What do you pull them with?

Chris Lonero posted:

The weekend has pulled into the station and it's time for tinplate! Starting off this weekend an American Flyer engine pulling in to pick up some passengers and some added detail to the Pride Lines taxi.   Lets see your tinplate! 

 

Chris,

I see you're mixing a Flyer engine with Lionel passenger cars. Sweet!

Mike

Here is one of my recent tinplate related acquisitions. While I'm not a huge Marx collector, I do have a representative number of pieces in my collection. My favorite Marx item has long been the Commodore Vanderbilt locomotive as I like the locomotive's styling and I own several of them. I recently discovered this softcover book authored by Mr. James Pekarek and, being such a fan of the Marx Commodore Vanderbilt, I purchased a copy. I have found the book to be very informative and a delight to browse through. Looking back through the forum, I discovered the author posts here under the name of WindUpGuy. So, to Mr. Pekarek, I salute and thank you for a job well done. Your book is superb.

Bob   

I was going to post more " out of date" layout and cabinet photos, but thanks to my friend Richard Fleischer we've just installed a rear end pickup for my New Haven Comet.  Now both ends light up and in honor of the event I present a contest between Lionel's UP City of Denver and American Flyer's New Haven Comet.

Love the observation cars David! This one is my favorite! 

ezmike posted:

Chris Lonero posted:

The weekend has pulled into the station and it's time for tinplate! Starting off this weekend an American Flyer engine pulling in to pick up some passengers and some added detail to the Pride Lines taxi.   Lets see your tinplate! 

 

Chris,

I see you're mixing a Flyer engine with Lionel passenger cars. Sweet!

Mike

Thanks Mike. I have never had a problem mixing manufacturers if it looks right. The proportions on the 6442 passenger cars didn't look right with anything else so I added a latch coupler to one of them and this was the end result. 

They look nice, enjoy them.

Mike

Nice observation cars David, and Laurel and Hardy looks great.

This week some sets of the colorfull world of Frank Hornby, all models for the french market, clockwork and electric.

Daniel

David,

The observation cars are great.  I think I like the Laurel and Hardy photo the best.  I thought I would share one of my observation car photos.  I call this "The President's Special".  

Its in O gauge.

So many great contributions again this week.  Thanks folks

Have a great tinplate weekend.

Greg

CNJ 3676 posted:

Here is one of my recent tinplate related acquisitions. While I'm not a huge Marx collector, I do have a representative number of pieces in my collection. My favorite Marx item has long been the Commodore Vanderbilt locomotive as I like the locomotive's styling and I own several of them. I recently discovered this softcover book authored by Mr. James Pekarek and, being such a fan of the Marx Commodore Vanderbilt, I purchased a copy. I have found the book to be very informative and a delight to browse through. Looking back through the forum, I discovered the author posts here under the name of WindUpGuy. So, to Mr. Pekarek, I salute and thank you for a job well done. Your book is superb.

Bob   

Bob, glad you enjoyed the book, and thank you for the kind words.  The Marx CV is my favorite, too; I have quite a few of them in the collection.  I thought it might be appropriate to post the original picture that is used on the cover... it shows a few of my Marx CV's on my windup layout:

In other news, a recent arrival is this Ives Series 3 No. 17 circa 1905-1907ish.  Apparently, the No. 17 is the same as a No. 11 except the 17 has a brake and the 11 doesn't.  This one has some stripped gears in the motor, but hopefully I will get it running this winter.  The body is intact except for the right side of the headlight.  Side note - the man who sold it to me said that this was one of his father's toys, his father being born in 1911.  It is possible that it was a hand-me-down from his dad's older brother.  The seller has had it in his possession since 1974.  I'm glad to have it in the collection:

.some Marx power heading out.

last week I posted this picture of the warriors set,i have to say,i was never a big fan of the 4694 steam engine,,,,,its turning out to be one of my favorite set,,,cars are small and I really like the green trucks,,,biggest reason I bought it at first,,,,had a problem with the trailing truck,,but some wd40 took care of that,,,, now runs super also a before and after pix of this weeks project ,terry 

Rob Shaubach posted:

hojack posted:

david

David,

Awesome photos as usual. Are those PE cars from the G gauge set? What do you pull them with?

Hi Rob,

yes, those are G gauge Polar Express cars, I put the smallest standard Gauge truck I could find under them (300 series) but they are still pretty "leggy".  Work just fine though.  To pull them I had an MTH 390 (actually labelled as an Ives 1770) that I put some labels on.  It's a homegrown PE but it serves the purpose!

david

Daniel,

what can you tell me about this loco in your set:

What is the prototype for this loco?  Is it Swiss?

Is there a name for this type loco?  It's not quite a krokodile, is it?

thanks

david

David,

The prototype for this Hornby engine is the french 2D2 Paris Orleans electric engine. It is not a crocodile model.

The real one :

As you can see the Hornby loco is very "shortened".  Hornby as very often, especially for french models, modified the lenght to use a standard motor with only four wheels and just geave the look of the real one to the toy. Many fantasy in Hornby trains.

The picture illustated on the set box was a swiss model from the Gothard Line, the little boy who received the set may have been very surprised to have a very short model and not corresponding to the one illustrated.

Finally that is the fun of toy trains.

Daniel

I've been thinking about doing this for Christmas myself but I would like to get them closer to the track  

Daniel, thank you.  The reason I ask is because I just bought this on eBay.uk

it is 1 Gauge, but very large - 19" - 48cm - long.  Just empty shell, no motor.  I plan to put a standard gauge motor in it.

the "LGB" is just sticker on side - the shell is all metal, 1920's:  Marklin??  Paya??

It looks like the locomotive you picture.

david

Chris Lonero posted:

I've been thinking about doing this for Christmas myself but I would like to get them closer to the track  

I am sure there is a way to do that.  When the season rolls around, I'll get mine out and see if there is a way I can tighten things up a bit.

hojack posted:

Chris Lonero posted:

I've been thinking about doing this for Christmas myself but I would like to get them closer to the track  

I am sure there is a way to do that.  When the season rolls around, I'll get mine out and see if there is a way I can tighten things up a bit.

 

Could always rebend the trucks.

David,

This engine is impressive and will look great on your layout. I think it is a homemade model, Paya has never done gauge one trains. It is not a Marklin or other german manufacturer, it seems to be really well made. If you have enough space a Lionel BAL motor with side rods would be perfect, or also a Mac Coy three axles. If you have the place to use side rods it could represent a german or swiss engine. Without rods it could represent a 2D2 PO french engine, and with some modifified Edobaud cars....

You have a great choice of opportunities, definetely a very nice engine.

Daniel

Thanks Chris for starting this thread every week.  I enjoy it very much.

great thread!

Sorry I am late to the party folks, been out of town. Haven't been able to run the trains in a little bit, so I decided to give the tinplate some excersize and show off the lighting job I did on my Ives passenger cars. Only engine not shown is the AF XX from the other week, as it is still not quite operational.

Finally got some rest and my wife is feeling better with her chemotherapy so I was able to unpack some additional goodies that I bought at the TTOS National Convention show in Long Beach a couple of weeks ago. I found some CMC/CMT style freight to go with my steam engine that I found earlier this year. The engine was gone through by Steve Eastman and I have been looking for some freight cars since and not only found the freight cars but a pair of cabeese. I am running only one and will need to find a set of wheels and an axle as one is missing. Interestingly enough even with the wheels being made of what looks like aluminum they needed oil like any thing else since I was initially alarmed at the voltage the engine needed to pull them. I realized my oops and oiled them and now this consist is ready. My loving wife also got me 2 of the 200 series standard gauge cars that can been seen in the background on the outside loop. While they are big they look pretty good with the 384. I did learn something new with changing couplers in that the standard gauage MTH repop stuff use a small screw instead of a rivet. I then changed out the coupler on both my 384 and 1385 to the CP21 to accept tab/slot older style couplers...for older stuff and some McCoy stuff. 

I hope everyone enjoys!

wmtrainnut09 posted:

Thanks Chris for starting this thread every week.  I enjoy it very much.

Agreed!  sure beats the heck out of most of the wailing and gnashing of teeth going on here because of some train meet opening its doors to the public. 

I also really enjoy this thread, in fact it's the first one I look for when I open the Tinplate directory.  This week I didn't get much train work done as my real job keeps interfering. Below are a couple of photos of things i am working on. The first is a 116 hopper that I bought on Ebay. It had been repainted silver over the original maroon and this was rough so I don't fell bad about repainting it to go with my other B&M trains. Maybe by next week I'll have it finished.

The second photo is a 439 Panel that was rusted and so tarnished all the brass looked black. I've repainted it and am in the process of cleaning the brass. When I'm done cleaning this up it will be for sale if anyone is interested. It will only have 4 knife switches but it should look pretty good when done.

Jeff, that's a very nice CMC/CMT train - I like the three yellow log cars, I've never seen that many in one place before!

The small CMC-era aluminum wheels are solid through the hub, unlike tinplate wheels - so they will produce much more drag on the axle unless well oiled - as you found!

Looks like two of MTH's "new tooling" 200 cars - the covered gondola and the wheel car - nice!  What do you think of them? 

Thanks for posting the pictures.

david

The Commodore's coffin tender got a set of Marx trucks, and a fresh coat of paint. The tender paint is a bit darker than the Commodore's original paint. I like to keep the original paint when I can, but the engine, although scratched, is good enough to keep. I'll hafta ponder on that one. I did get the locomotive out for a maiden run with two of the three Marx cars. I am certain I can make the 1689E's original rear motor mount work, but when I screw it to the engine shell, and the motor is just resting on it, it has a short. I've been running it with a wooden tie as a spacer between the top of the motor and the shell, holding the back of the motor with a couple rubber bands, and it runs fine.

hojack posted:

Jeff, that's a very nice CMC/CMT train - I like the three yellow log cars, I've never seen that many in one place before!

The small CMC-era aluminum wheels are solid through the hub, unlike tinplate wheels - so they will produce much more drag on the axle unless well oiled - as you found!

Looks like two of MTH's "new tooling" 200 cars - the covered gondola and the wheel car - nice!  What do you think of them? 

Thanks for posting the pictures.

david

The CMC cars are definitely hard to find. I got lucky. I do need to find an extra axle and wheel set along with some of the flat bed car stakes. As for the 200 series cars they look great and seem to blend well with the 500 series cars. The fit and finish is nice and I really like having something different. Only minor issue is adjusting coupler heights to get everything to latch. Not a big deal but something that folks should know. The larger wheels and trucks do not seem to be too out of place next to the 500 series. A bit pricey but worth it for the uniqueness.

Jeff,

i sent  you an email concerning the CMC cars. Just wondering if you got it. 

ARNO

moderneraSG posted:

Jeff,

i sent  you an email concerning the CMC cars. Just wondering if you got it. 

ARNO

I just sent a reply. I have been out of town for a work assignment.