what does it mean when a tiu won't reset and the light blinks 5 times when powered cycled!

It is a H rev and is version 4.10 software  in remote and i tried 3 different remotes is seems to be stuck in the tiu and won't reset!

Alan

RUN !!!!!!! 

Just kidding 

Does the red stay on after the 5 blinks?   Did you try the "AON" command to turn DCS on for everything?   Press the "Read" button on the remote and see what it says:  it should give you the address of the TIU.  Follow this to continue the process:

http://www.protosound2.com/pdf...leshooting%20Doc.pdf

Report findings back here 

yes the light stays on dim after the 5 blinks,and i tried rest tiu delete tiu, renumber tiu it acts like it's not talking to the remote, keeps saying tiu not found? I'm stuck!

Alan

Alan,

The TIU has had it's DCS ID# changed to "5". You won't be able to access it until your remote looks for it as TIU #5. Do the following:

• Menu/System/TIU Setup/Add TIU
• Select TIU #5 and press the thumbwheel.

Assuming it now responds, change it back to "1":

• Menu/System/TIU Setup/Edit TIU
• Select TIU #5 and press the thumbwheel
• Select TIU #1 and press the thumbwheel.

Maybe it's time to buy my book?  

This and a whole lot more is all in MTH’s “The DCS O Gauge Companion 2nd Edition", available for purchase as an eBook or a printed book at MTH's web store!

repair technician, first off your tiu has been assigned as tiu #5 thats what the 5 blinks at power up of tiu means. when you reset tiu did you also reset the remote?

to change tiu back to tiu #1 go to Menu/System/tiu setup/edit tiu address a window will show you should see tiu 1 select it and wait until remote says it has changed the address.

now turn the power off to tiu for a few seconds and turn power back on tiu should now blink 1 time and go to a steady glow.

now to eliminate any issue reset the remote Menu/System/Remote setup/remote reset once done see if remote will find tiu #1 using the read button on remote.

if it does find it continue playing with it but!

save this post or start yourself a how to book and write this fix down this aids for future issues until you start remembering some of this.

if this doesn't help try this procedure below.

take the phone cord from the handheld is a 4 pin connector not the one from phone to wall jack!

plug one end to tiu where it says remote in now connect the other end to remote and try the reset feature again.

if this works then inside the tiu is a small receiver board and most likely it has come somewhat loose from its pins. if you are not afraid unscrew cover and look for a board with a small 2" black wire that is the antenna make sure you have touched a metal object to discharge any electric static you might have and gently press and make sure that board is seated on its pins.

replace cover hopefully this will aid and or fix your issue.

let us know I am surprised the more knowledgeable dcs folks haven't chimed in yet but they might still be in slumber land.

hope this helps you

to change tiu back to tiu #1 go to Menu/System/tiu setup/edit tiu address a window will show you should see tiu 1 select it and wait until remote says it has changed the address.

Unfortunately, that won't work unless the remote already has a TIU #5 in its memory. If it did, he wouldn't be having the problems he's having.

In order to edit a TIU's address, the existing address must be in the remote and the new address must not be in the remote.

let us know I am surprised the more knowledgeable dcs folks haven't chimed in yet but they might still be in slumber land.

You should look up one post above yours...  

This and a whole lot more is all in MTH’s “The DCS O Gauge Companion 2nd Edition", available for purchase as an eBook or a printed book at MTH's web store!

You should look up one post above yours...   absolutely.

 Remember when we couldn't actually  add tiu to the remote until the tiu had been edited   to that   address first .  I'm not sure why that was changed. 

Gregg,

You should look up one post above yours...   absolutely.

If you're suggesting that one can actually change a TIU's address when the TIU is not present, rest assured that one cannot.

You'll get a TIU ADDRESS ERROR every time. I just verified this, however, feel free to verify it yourself.  

No I'm not suggesting that. I don't understand why you can tiu to the remote even though they don't exist. I can add 5 tiu to my remote right now  sitting here at the computer  with no tiu anywhere in the house.  I think the tiu should be edited to the correct address before it can be added to the remote.

I talked to him, it's all worked out.

Gregg,

That's just the way that it works and it actually makes sense. Consider the following scenarios.

This allows one to work on someone else's remote using your own TIU by simply adding your TIU to the other guys remote, without affecting your own TIUs address.

When the work is done, one just deletes one's own TIU from the other guys remote before returning it.

This also allows one to add a club's TIUs to a remote without having to edit anything or disturb those TIU designations on the home layout..

While I wish that adding, deleting and editing TIUs worked like it does with DCS engines, this is just how it is. It can, however, be awkward when replacing a TIU in a multi-TIU layout. If all 5 TIUs have engines associated with them, and there isn't a spare, resettable remote or a remote backup available, engine data loss is almost always a possibility.

That's why The DCS O Gauge Companion 2nd Edition, Appendix J: Replacing a TIU, is 2 pages long instead of 2 paragraphs.

thanks all and Barry and John i had tried resets on both remote and TIU ,then talked to john and made remote 5 address,reset both  remote worked perfectly thanks all, . the part that threw me was no talking  from remote to TIU i thought board receiver had gone bad. John straightened me out .

Thanks All

Alan

This also allows one to add a club's TIUs to a remote without having to edit anything or disturb those TIU designations on the home layout..

If you were at the club all you would have to do is add the tiu , However  you would have to be in range of the tiu  . You still would not have to edit anything. Now if you were at home you would be able to add tiu unless edited to the address.. I'm just saying  adding  non existing tiu can lead to problem and as you mentioned..

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In order to edit a TIU's address, the existing address must be in the remote and the new address must not be in the remote. It a good thing we don't have to do it very often.

Gregg,

    Roger that!  Got to admit Barry's technical writing on all this in the DCS O Gauge Companion Vol 2 is spot on the money, just as his TR TIU & Z4K TR mode programming technical instruction is also.  I keep saying that DCS is an education in itself, and Barry's book is the Bible on DCS education.

PCRR/Dave

Barry we must have posted at same time.

I was using my remote as the how to and my remote shows TIU #3-5 so is that because I have 2 tiu's in use did it auto add the 5th tiu?

I was using my remote as the how to and my remote shows TIU #3-5 so is that because I have 2 tiu's in use did it auto add the 5th tiu?

No, you did it, whether you remember or not.

The only time a TIU is "auto-added" to a remote is when the remote is reset. After the reset, only TIU #1 is present.

Thanks John i need it, could not stop laughing when you put you last forum reply in here!!!HEHEHEHEHAHAHAHAHHE

Alan