Thanks for reading. I couldn’t find a yes or no answer.
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Plain LC will not run with transformer control. Only LC+ or LC+ 2.0 will run with transformer control.
Not in the traditional sense that you control speed and direction with a transformer handle.
They can operate with a conventional a/c transformer providing power to the track, but the speed and direction are controlled via a dedicated or universal remote or the BT app.
Well, they won't "run" without the remote. Yes, you can power them up with the transformer, but without the remote they'll just sit there and beep at you. 
Just to reiterate:
Yes, in the traditional sense that you control speed and direction with a transformer handle, for LC+ and LC+ 2.0.
No, in the traditional sense that you control speed and direction with a transformer handle, for Plain LC.
M.H.M.
Ok to be clear, NO Lionchief loco will move without included remote, or Bluetooth?
Correct, just add the Universal Remote will also control them.
@Mark V. Spadaro posted:Thanks for reading. I couldn’t find a yes or no answer.
No. LionChief locomotives are strictly remote. LionChief Plus have a transformer option. LionChief Plus 2.0 has transformer control, and TMCC control in addition to remote control. All three have Bluetooth as an option.
@Mark V. Spadaro posted:Ok to be clear, NO Lionchief loco will move without included remote, or Bluetooth?
Correct.
I was looking at a LC+ D&H RS3 and this is what the LHS owner wrote, when I asked him to verify that it would operate under conventional transformer control:
Good Morning, Yes, that would be one of the options. User-selected operational modes: Conventional AC transformer control mode or LionChief® wireless remote control with AC or DC power Bluetooth Control - Operate with LionChief Plus Remote Remote or LionChief App Thank you for your interest. ok - who’s wrong? |
No one's wrong, I believe. LC+ (or LC + 2.0, which also includes TMCC/Legacy control) can operate under any of Bluetooth, LionChief remote enclosed with loco purchase, or the LionChief universal remote, and traditional transformer operation. It's only the LionChief without the + that cannot operate by transformer, and can only operate via the remote enclosed with purchase, or the universal LionChief remote (and more recently Bluetooth). Perhaps a little confusing, but this is how the technology progressed. Lionel still offers LionChief in sets and separate sale that won't operate by transformer alone. But everything else (LC+, LC + 2.0) can operate by transformer.
Landsteiner - Thank you for clarifying. And my apology to Rixtrack for missing his post completely. Reading comprehension 101.
Regular LC is meant to be introductory, but is nevertheless marvelous technology. I have several sets and enjoy them.
I DO wish they worked with conventional transformer throttle like LC+ and all the MTH line. That would make so much sense to me. But alas--it's not to be, and we are left to enjoy them--or not---exactly as they are.
