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Hi.  I got a good deal on this almost brand new train set last made in the 90's.  The child who wanted to sell it received it from a train collector and the child took very good care of it.   I have been working on my wife's Christmas train Polar Express since Christmas.  I finally have the layout we are going to use.  The rules are, everything must come apart and not be permanent.  These are my rules, so far everything that has been made for this train is working that way.  The wife wanted another train to circle inside the blue tooth train while the blue tooth train would be run by the remote.  From watching you tube videos, and asking questions I have not be able to find my answer.  The final solution is too run two trains on one set of tracks using one power supply source. 

  • Can I use the included transformer from this 90's train on the fas track by hard wiring it too the contacts on the bottom of the track?  Will this power supply be able to handle two trains?
  • How does the blue tooth train reduce its power?  Is it from the tender car, the engine, or does the power supply have a built in way to reduce power?
  • Is the fas track always energized at full strength and the remote reduces the power either in the tender, the engine or the power supply and not the track?
  • Would running this conventional train on the fas track affect the motor? Is running the train dependent on how the fas track is powered either conventionally or by blue tooth?
  • Is having the switch between the loops complicating things?  Should I just isolate the inside loop to run it as a conventional and leave the outside loop to run blue tooth?  Is there a way to turn one track off and on with some kind of rocker switch to accomplish running two trains on one track?
  • Should I try to figure in a way to run the metal conventional track inside of the larger loop fas track and run both trains on their intended power supply options?

If you can answers these questions for me or help me figure out the best way to attach what I want to do. I will be very grateful to you and this group.

Christmas Bill

 

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Bill,

There are others more knowledgeable than me, but I'm going to give it  shot.

  • Can I use the included transformer from this 90's train on the fas track by hard wiring it too the contacts on the bottom of the track?  YES, Will this power supply be able to handle two trains? Depends on the wattage of the transformer. My guess is no.
  • How does the blue tooth train reduce its power?  It doesn't. All of the LionChief trains use an 18 volt AC walwart power supply. This is a non-variable transformer. Is it from the tender car, the engine, or does the power supply have a built in way to reduce power?Power comes in the engine and is reduce to whatever is needed via the circuit cards inside. The only thing inside the tender is the speaker for the PE.
  • Is the fas track always energized at full strength and the remote reduces the power either in the tender, the engine or the power supply and not the track? The PE uses "full power" (voltage). The remote only controls the functions of the engine.
  • Would running this conventional train on the fas track affect the motor? No. Is running the train dependent on how the fas track is powered either conventionally or by blue tooth? Running the older engine requires the older transformer. This is how the speed of the engine is controlled. If you use the walwart on the older engine...It will operate at full speed always, no control.
  • Is having the switch between the loops complicating things?  If you run two different style of engines, Yes. Should I just isolate the inside loop to run it as a conventional and leave the outside loop to run blue tooth? Yes, if you want to run both engines at the same time. Is there a way to turn one track off and on with some kind of rocker switch to accomplish running two trains on one track? With the two engines you currently have, running both on one track will not work.
  • Should I try to figure in a way to run the metal conventional track inside of the larger loop fas track and run both trains on their intended power supply options? You can run fastrack on both loops no problem. They do need to be isolated. You can run the PE on a variable transformer, But it needs to be at full throttle when you do. I would recommend using 2 power supplies, the walwart power supply with the PE and a conventional transformer for the older engine.
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