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Thank goodness that Eastside Trains works Sundays over the Holiday Season because I was able to pick up Lionel's new Postwar Inspired UP Anniversary Set that had the 2023 Alcos. Its fitting that on the next to last day of 2012, which is the year of the 150th anniversary of the actual 2 rail Union Pacific Railroad, this set gets delivered.

First, the engine has the same heft of the original and definitely has Magne-Traction (It also has traction tires). I was also pleasantly surprised to see that the hood is grey, rather than the more common yellow (I guess if I had read the catalog instead of just looking at the pictures, I would have known that in advance because it said the nose was going to be grey along with the frame and truck sides).

 

The cab has the dime size “bump” that was included on the 2033 as a way to stop the “humping” on the 2023 cab due to heat. The decal on the nose is very crisp, but a bit smaller than the original. The front coupler sticks out a bit more than the original and the UNION PACIFIC lettering on the side cab is smaller than the original due to the cab having some groves along the bottom edge, that said, I am very pleased with the overall look, especially when you look at them a few feet away.  I can’t wait to run them!!

 

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This next picture compares the 2012 version with the 1950 version (on the right):

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Here they are again, 2012 versus 1950 (on the right):

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Again, 2012 versus 1950:

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Here is an aerial shot of the 2012 version versus the 1950 version (on the right):

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Underside of the new version:

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Close up of front trucks on the new version:

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Here is the underside of the 1950 version:

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Nice pictures, thank you for posting them.

 

It looks like you have a couple of pictures showing an original postwar locomotive next to this reissue. I found that a bit confusing at first.

 

I am curious about the frame. When the alco's were reissued in the early 1990's, the frame was made of two pieces, the main frame, and a seperate pilot apron, which was held on by screws. This turned out to be beneficial when Lionel received complaints about the pilot apron on the Erie. They made up new aprons with a better appearance.

How did they do the frame on this one?

 

The early 1990s version also had the grey nose.

 

The engine and cars look very nice to me. I expect that those who ordered one will be very happy.

 

 

Last edited by C W Burfle
Originally Posted by KOOLjock1:

Beautiful set, beautiful packaging.  I'm a little bummed that they didn't install flying shoe coil couplers though.  That would have given the set a more authentic look.  But still, it's a set to run and enjoy, so please don't let this bother you.

 

Jon 

It appears that pickup shoes could be added though as the trucks were cast to accept them. Nice set!

 

Pete

Originally Posted by C W Burfle:

I am curious about the frame. When the alco's were reissued in the early 1990's, the frame was made of two pieces, the main frame, and a seperate pilot apron, which was held on by screws. This turned out to be beneficial when Lionel received complaints about the pilot apron on the Erie. They made up new aprons with a better appearance.

How did they do the frame on this one?

 

The early 1990s version also had the grey nose.

 

The engine and cars look very nice to me. I expect that those who ordered one will be very happy.

 

 

Hi CW,  The frame is in two pieces,
all the best, Dave

Originally Posted by breezinup:
Originally Posted by Lee Willis:

It looks like they got everything spot on, including colors.  

Very nice. Always liked these engines. It looks to me like the new engines are a bit lighter shade of yellow than the Postwar engines. Age has had a darkening effect on the yellow though, I'm sure. They're a lot closer than the '93 reissues, however, which had a much lighter shade of yellow. Unfortunately, those '93 cars didn't work with my Postwar engines for that reason.

 

It would have been nice if they'd marketed these new cars as separate sale items for those who have the Postwar engines.

 

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Passenger Train Collector,

   Brewman annaversary set is some kind of special, looks fantastic, and can be used on smaller radious curves.   The original Williams runs on some seriously big curves and needs a lot of space to opperate.  Thanks for the nice complement on the old girl, she is part of my Iron Horse Train Club memories.

PCRR/Dave

 

The big old Williams UP City of San Fan stretched out on the Iron Horse Williams Show Wall, just before I purchased her many many years ago.  This picture gives you an idea of how big the original Williams passenger train, really happens to be.

Bremans train is so cool I just might look to acquire one myself. Ya got to love the Magna Traction also.

 

 

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Kevin,

  If you are talking to me, she runs like a dream, smooth as glass even for as old as she is.

Put a true blast horn in her a few years back, that I really like also.  Running her from the DCS hand held remote control, on the conventional side, is a real kick.

Bremans new Up should run like a million bucks with all the new goodies.

PCRR/Dave

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They did the same thing with the 1990 version except they were thumb-tack couplers and the apron was behind the thumb-tack giving them an ugly appearance (same thing with the Erie ABA set from the same time). Lionel's fix back them was to send replacement aprons (since they were held on with two screws) and a long fixed coupler so the apron would end at the front end of the frame and the coupler would extend beyond it. These look like fixed couplers as I cannot see the thumb-tack on any of the photos. So, while the rear truck looks like you could mount a sliding shoe, you would have to install a coiled coupler on the front truck which may or may not be possible. Or, replace the truck(s).

 

Now I'm a dyed in the wool Lionel guy but this I cannot understand. I have 3 other Conventional Classics diesels and the couplers look nothing like this.

 

Please refrain from turning this observation into a Lionel burn fest.

 

Mike

My UP Anniversary Set arrived today!    I'd post some pictures, but if you look at the great pics Brewman posted up top you'll see it all.  Great packaging on these with a retro look. And I was amazed at the size of the outer and inner cartons, i.e., very small. This ALCO set fits very nicely into much smaller packaging than some of the large train boxes we usually see.

 

As mentioned, these have a nice heft and feel solid. Gave the AA units a quick lube and around the layout they went. Great runners, nice and smooth, and the diesel horn is very cool ! Oh, and there's that motor smell. Good stuff.

 

Will get all the passenger cars out later and really give it a run. Hopefully pics and a video to follow.

 

I'm happy.

 

 

 
Originally Posted by jaygee:

I'd have jumped on this set, but the ribs scared me off. This effects the side lettering to the extent that I  couldn't handle it.  Gonna rely on Williams.  Cars look good, FWIW.  Someday the Chinese will lose the ribs...the pilots I can live with.

 

Well,... can motors and "Luxury Lines" do not quite cut it for some of us.
 
What the pictures, nice as they are, can not convey is how smoothly this set runs, and how fitting the sounds of the horn and the little growl from the motor are. And, if one is going to get picky about a reissue/repro, buying an original is always an option.
 
Bob B.
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