Rex,
I get a number of requests for the Reading 2-10-2, and I have been given some good info and specs about them from some Reading modelers. That could be a future Sunset offering. Note I didn't say will be but it is probably one of the top 5 requests that I receive for steam power.
Bob-
That is gratifying. I suppose if 3rd Rail can do a moderately unknown loco like the T&P 2-10-4 
there is hope for the Reading engine.
Why would Sunset do the L&N Berk when every single time a USH version hits eBay it goes for $350? And it was truly a good model, just like most USH. The market for that model has always been thin.
Opinion.
bob2 posted:Why would Sunset do the L&N Berk when every single time a USH version hits eBay it goes for $350? And it was truly a good model, just like most USH. The market for that model has always been thin.
Opinion.
Bob, Change opinion to read fact. Nice looking locomotive but doesn't seem to have the sales potential to sell 125 models.
As I posted earlier, maybe on the 2RS thread, I would definitely be in for the Reading 2-10-2! 
Aside from the Pacific's and the T-1's, there have been very few other O scale Reading steam locomotives made. I currently have nothing on pre-order and would start saving all of my hobby dollars if there is a chance of the Reading 2-10-2 being made!
Jim
bob2 posted:Why would Sunset do the L&N Berk when every single time a USH version hits eBay it goes for $350? And it was truly a good model, just like most USH. The market for that model has always been thin.
Opinion.
$350 is a tad low. If one were to go for that I'd already have bought it, even if it's 2-rail.
jd-train posted:As I posted earlier, maybe on the 2RS thread, I would definitely be in for the Reading 2-10-2!
Aside from the Pacific's and the T-1's, there have been very few other O scale Reading steam locomotives made. I currently have nothing on pre-order and would start saving all of my hobby dollars if there is a chance of the Reading 2-10-2 being made!
Jim
While we're dreaming, another, more useful (for modelers) Reading loco would be the I10sa 2-8-0. While not the brute that the K-1 was, it's still a massive hog.
Should we start a campaign, such as the ones that brought us the B&O locos (I think we had a LOT of help from Bob Heil...
). How do we start a poll?
Scott,
Any further news as to the status of the second run of the SF El Capitan cars?
Bob
I emailed Scott about the El Capitan troubles last weekend since I've been hearing rumors of trouble. He said they factory stole his tooling to do the windows on the cars and he didn't trust them enough to give them money so he was going to a tooling show to see if he could find a different way to make them.
I heard the very same story from the source... looking at 2017 delivery at the earliest.
Sad news...
rex desilets posted:jd-train posted:As I posted earlier, maybe on the 2RS thread, I would definitely be in for the Reading 2-10-2!
Aside from the Pacific's and the T-1's, there have been very few other O scale Reading steam locomotives made. I currently have nothing on pre-order and would start saving all of my hobby dollars if there is a chance of the Reading 2-10-2 being made!
Jim
While we're dreaming, another, more useful (for modelers) Reading loco would be the I10sa 2-8-0. While not the brute that the K-1 was, it's still a massive hog.
Should we start a campaign, such as the ones that brought us the B&O locos (I think we had a LOT of help from Bob Heil...
While the I10sa would also be a good model, the problem for me is that I would want to double-head this model and there is no way that I could ever afford to buy two of them!
On the other hand, I could see pulling a long string of coal hoppers with the K-1! 
I think it would be interesting to see the results of a a poll for Reading steam. Especially since there are so many model train enthusiasts in the PA area, and contrary to what most of the model manufacturers think, we don't all model the Pennsy!
Regarding starting a poll, I think one needs to be a premium member to do so.
Jim
RD posted:I heard the very same story from the source... looking at 2017 delivery at the earliest.
Sad news...
RD
I know where you can land the complete 12-car El Capitan set that has NEVER been run.
Interested? Contact me via email.
Jim
If you know where to find a complete 18 car set of GGD Daylight cars Id be all over it
Matt Makens posted:If you know where to find a complete 18 car set of GGD Daylight cars Id be all over it
He does indeed know. Contact him off-line via eMail, in his profile.
Wow!!
Do I detect a fire sale?? 
If he does have one I do not think he is willing to part with it.
Matt Makens posted:If he does have one I do not think he is willing to part with it.
You might want to look at the For Sale or Trade Forum, as Jim is indeed selling his entire ElCap passenger train!
Well Jack, Ive already got the El Capitan, my previous comment to which you replied did not have anything to with the El Capitan but stated "If you know where to find a complete 18 car set of GGD Daylight cars Id be all over it".
OK. I see now that it was RD who asked about the ElCap set.
No worries, I just hope I get my extra cars Ive got ordered
Matt Makens posted:No worries, I just hope I get my extra cars Ive got ordered
I wouldn't count on it any time soon...
When I last spoke to the GGD office I was told the tooling for the EL Cap cars was stolen and Scott was looking for a new vendor to produce the cars. They also told me it would be 2017 at the earliest.
Armed with that info I went out and found a set of the 18' Lionel EL Capitan cars new in their boxes from a few years ago. Truth is this seven car set while not prototypical is a much better fit for my layout. With the ABBA set of F3s it's more than enough train for my pike.
Matt Makens posted:Well Jack, Ive already got the El Capitan, my previous comment to which you replied did not have anything to with the El Capitan but stated "If you know where to find a complete 18 car set of GGD Daylight cars Id be all over it".
I thought GGD only made a 16 car Daylight set. Two five cars sets, two additional articulated coaches (four cars), and two additional coaches for a total of 16 cars.
Bob, that may very well be but who cares that much. Hot Water, how many cars were in a complete set of GGD Daylight cars?
Ive got the 8 car set and it looks great on its own. the extra cars are icing on the cake
Matt Makens posted:Bob, that may very well be but who cares that much. Hot Water, how many cars were in a complete set of GGD Daylight cars?
Just going by memory, I believe there were 13 or 14 total (pretty much just like the real train). Since I can not reach all my GGD original boxes for the Daylight (Way too hot in the attic), I'm pretty sure that I have an 12 car set of GGD Daylight cars, consisting of:
1) The first car is the baggage/chair combine.
2) Various individual chair cars.
3) Various articulated chair cars. Extra articulated chair cars were also offered, and I purchased one.
4) The three section articulated dining car.
5) Tavern car.
6) Parlor car.
7) Observation car.
Here is the correct train make-up consist, that I have, as per Richard K. Wright's book on the SP Daylight Train:
1) Combine (chair/baggage) #3302.
2) Articulated chair #2441+#2442.
3) Articulated diner set, diner #10252+#10251 (kitchen)+#10250 (coffee).
4) Chair #2489.
5) Tavern #10314.
6) Articulated chair #2443+#2444.
7) Parlor #3002.
8) Observation #2954
Totaling 12 cars.
Note: For those unfamiliar with the Southern Pacific "Daylight" passenger trains, there were NO SLEEPING cars since the various Daylight trains did NOT operate "over night", unlike the Lark, which was the overnight train between SF and LA.
Thanks Jack, I must have been thinking about either my MTH HO set or my Kato N scale set, both of which I have 18 cars for. Im pretty sad I was too late to the party on that set. Such a beautiful train
Scott,
Will the C&O H6 be available in P48?
Thanks,
Larry
Well guys, Looks like the El Capitan 2nd run is back on. I just got an email saying they'll be made in October. My 8 car set came form the first run so i was curious how well the 2 runs will match, when I asked Scott how close he would be able to get the paint to match the first run and he cancelled my order. Guess that answers my question
I can only guess at the stress that Scott is under. Having stuff stolen is bad enough. Trying to then recover and move forward is very tuff. I don't have the inside info. I can only guess that it ain't easy. I wish him the best. I hope others have patience. At some point, you would think that those companies would improve there relations? I guess it's easier to pack up and run to a new location.
Well, turns out there was a bit of a misunderstanding due to him reading my email on his phone. The production is on, in the same factory as the previous run and the cars will match the first run cars exactly. Those are his words. I'm stoked, it's such a great train it'll be nice to have the full set
Scott, my wish list would be Southern Pacific 2472. ERR could go make recordings of its chime whistle, bell, and air pumps.
mtnhi7 posted:Scott, my wish list would be Southern Pacific 2472. ERR could go make recordings of its chime whistle, bell, and air pumps.
Sunset/3rd Rail produced those Southern Pacific Pacific class locomotive models, quite some years ago. I don't see them being re-run.
We're on the 3 rail scale forum and someone is requesting p48, I love it ��
Does Scott do P48 models?
Matt Makens posted:Does Scott do P48 models?
No, he hasn't yet, to my knowledge.
Matt Makens posted:... The production is on, in the same factory as the previous run and the cars will match the first run cars exactly. Those are his words. ...
Just goes to show how volatile factory relations are these days. Originally, Factory A is on board to manufacture the cars. Then we hear there are issues with that factory, so Factory B gets drawn into the project. Now from what you're saying, Factory A is back in the game? 
The project is on... Then on hold. Then on again... Then on hold for a while longer. Now it's back on again (for now).
I don't know about everyone else here, but I find myself getting tired of all this overseas factory nonsense and plain-and-simple begin to lose interest in products after awhile. I really do. And after awhile, I don't give a hoot whether this stuff gets made or not.
Nonetheless, I give the importers lots of credit for dealing with the overseas labor volatility (in whatever forms the volatility surfaces), because I honestly don't think I could deal with it on such a regular basis -- project after project. 
I realize they don't really have a choice in the matter other than to deal with it. But just the same, I don't think I could do it.
David
I hear that people producing in the Philippines couldn't be happier. They all speak English and they dont suffer from the arrogance on the Chinese manufacturers. Like they say, the Chinese cant make the same thing twice
If you don't give a "hoot" David, why do you constantly ramble on and on about it?
WeberCanyon4014 posted:If you don't give a "hoot" David, why do you constantly ramble on and on about it?
Well, the reality is we never know when these labor volatilities will rear their ugly heads. But they're definitely occuring more frequently these days... so we're adjusting our expectations accordingly.
I was lucky enough to get a call from Scott and was able to buy one of the first-run, 8-car El Cap sets after being the reserve/waiting list. Then out of nowhere an RPO became available too. So I have 9 cars now -- a perfectly acceptable set. I have 3 more on order. But if they don't get made, that's OK. If they do, it's just a bonus. Either way the world won't end. If it does for you, then you're in the wrong hobby -- especially nowadays.
I was being candidly honest when I said folks can lose interest in a product if it takes too long to manufacture. How many times have we heard folks here say, "Wow... I ordered that product so long ago, I forgot all about it!", when the shipping notice hits their in-basket? 
David
People enjoy all aspects of this hobby, I enjoy fixing and upgrading trains, some people really enjoy scenery, others enjoy scratch building and painting. David enjoys complaining about prices, manufacturing issues and shipping schedules. Don't knock it, its all part of this great hobby.
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