3rd Rail Wishlist Request Future Engines

@VintageClassics posted:

I personally disagree. I think all trains are beautiful, and should be made if there is a given demand and appreciation for it.  It's nice to have beauty and contrast in life, to appreciate that which we personally find beautiful, as truly beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

That being said, The A class in Brass seems very popular by forum members that have contributed to the thread... What else do you Guys want Sunset to make?

This must be one heavy train.To have both steam and diesel locomotives pulling it.And the train has 4 diesel locomotives.I have seen pictures like this before.I always smile at both locomotives working together.

@prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Prr N1 only. NO USRA N2 or N2sa. I would be in for both the N2 and N2sa.

The N2 was a USRA heavy Santa Fe design and other roads that had similar designs were the B&LE, CB&Q, Erie, and C&S.  Because several roads used this design, a 3rd Rail model should be a good seller.

The problem for us with layouts covering the post-WWII era is all of PRR's N2 engines were rebuilt with the Belpaire firebox starting in 1923 and became the N2sa.  Since the Pennsy had 130 N2sa engines and used them to at least 1952, I would definitely buy a N2sa.

@Hot Water posted:

What is a "Mollie"? If you mean the N&W 4-8-0 locomotives, the N&W men NEVER referred to them as "Mollies". Another goofy railfan term.

Relax. The term has become commonplace now even if its not what the locomotives were called back in the day. You knew what I meant by Mollie, right? No need to attack somebody for referring to those engines by that name. 

Frisco 4500-series 4-8-4 in the blue Meteor scheme.  And my perennial plea:  Rock Island 4-8-4.  Both have never been done in O Scale and think they have pretty good crowd appeal.

@mark s posted:

Frisco 4500-series 4-8-4 in the blue Meteor scheme.  And my perennial plea:  Rock Island 4-8-4.  Both have never been done in O Scale and think they have pretty good crowd appeal.

It may not be the exact one nor 3rd Rail, but here is a link to a Rock Island 4-8-4.

http://www.lionel.com/products...-4-8-4-5100-2031210/

@vash44 posted:

It may not be the exact one nor 3rd Rail, but here is a link to a Rock Island 4-8-4.

http://www.lionel.com/products...-4-8-4-5100-2031210/

That looks more like a Santa Fe 3751 painted for Rock Island.

I'll throw a few out there:

1. New Haven steam locomotives. Weaver's I-4 Pacific and I-5 Hudson sold very well, and only rarely come up on the secondary market. A J-1 Mikado, or a K-1-d Mogul would be excellent for smaller power - an L-1 Santa Fe would be the prime example of large New Haven freight power. 2-10-2's aren't readily available in O scale in any road name.

2. GE B23-7. Replacing many first generation road switchers, they were comfortable in everything from fast intermodal to podunk local freight. Many are still active with shortlines today. Conrail would be my preferred roadname.

3. GE C39-8. Very distinctive look with the hump behind the cab. Once again, Conrail would be my vote. 

~C.Vigs

Scott all but promised me he'd do an SW-1. I'm still waiting...

A Sunset quality RS-3 would be nice.

I would dearly love to see a SW1500, especially if painted in the Manufacturers Rwy scheme.

I'd also love to see a Alco C-415--I'd think SP and BN modelers would provide some volume.

Finally (and I'm not holding my breath for any of these to be made), Sunset could do On30 modelers a huge favor and release a well done 8-18C 4-4-0. Eureka & Palisade #4 and North Pacific Coast #12 Sonoma are two surviving examples.

Jeff C

would like some small diesel switchers , Alco S2 and S4; SW1, MP15 etc..

Paul

Hmmm. More Rs1,3 interest. I like. I also like the early small switchers. I’d be interested in a Manufacturer’s RWY issue. (Atlas did a Nice MP15 I bet 8ish years ago. I have one and Wonder how few there are of those). I’d also Love - actually prefer a TRRA (Terminal   Railroad Assn) issue. 
These small engines would undoubtedly be priced just like the Es and Fs. We want quality but it won’t be cheaper be cause it’s a bit smaller. 
RS and a small switcher could become a “big” run for Scott as Sooooo many roads had them. Let Scott know you want this. 
TrainBub

@leikec posted:

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Finally (and I'm not holding my breath for any of these to be made), Sunset could do On30 modelers a huge favor and release a well done 8-18C 4-4-0. Eureka & Palisade #4 and North Pacific Coast #12 Sonoma are two surviving examples.

Jeff C

Disclaimer: I stand second to none in my admiration of 3rd Rail products.
However: The attraction of On30 is the ability to model O scale narrow gauge on the cheap, me included. I doubt that an 8-18c could be produced for less than a grand. As desirable as this loco is, compared to the dinky 4-4-0s Bachmann has produced, I doubt it would sell.
A better solution might be for one of the current HO producers of excellent composite cast/brass locos to enter the market for a couple hunnert bucks a pop.

@rex desilets posted:

Disclaimer: I stand second to none in my admiration of 3rd Rail products.
However: The attraction of On30 is the ability to model O scale narrow gauge on the cheap, me included. I doubt that an 8-18c could be produced for less than a grand. As desirable as this loco is, compared to the dinky 4-4-0s Bachmann has produced, I doubt it would sell.
A better solution might be for one of the current HO producers of excellent composite cast/brass locos to enter the market for a couple hunnert bucks a pop.

I don’t think Sunset would venture into this realm. I AM surprised MTH hasn’t entered this niche. After all - kinda fits with their S and HO space. 
TrainBub

@TrainBub posted:

I don’t think Sunset would venture into this realm. I AM surprised MTH hasn’t entered this niche. After all - kinda fits with their S and HO space. 
TrainBub

It seems like the On30 market has cooled down.  Bachmann hasn't been releasing much newly tooled On30 stuff over the past few years.

Rusty

Definitely the On30 market has faded, but I think the market left the customers rather than the other way around. 

Jeff C

@TrainBub posted:

I don’t think Sunset would venture into this realm. I AM surprised MTH hasn’t entered this niche. After all - kinda fits with their S and HO space. 
TrainBub

For MTH and Lionel, On30 is the red-headed step-child..

@Rusty Traque posted:

It seems like the On30 market has cooled down.  Bachmann hasn't been releasing much newly tooled On30 stuff over the past few years.

Rusty

Over the past few years Bachmann has not released anything that I want to spend money on.

@leikec posted:

Definitely the On30 market has faded, but I think the market left the customers rather than the other way around. 

Jeff C

Point well taken. B'Mann released the lovely ETWNC 4-6-0 and stopped...no caboose, no wood hopper cars, no boxcars*, no passenger cars, etc.  Then, of course, EBT. So what are the new releases? Dinky, funky little lokies designed after suitable for So.American RR? Big market there?
Oh...the 1917 WWI trench loco. Yeah, I have a real need for one of those.

* Not to forget the craftsman kits and the 3D products.

One other item I'd love to see in O scale is the New Haven Comet. Con-Cor did these in HO, but not sure if any company (MTH??) has done the train in O scale. There are a lot of New Haven fans out there--and not just on the east coast.

Jeff C

@Rob Leese posted:

  The SLSF Firefly.  

Yes please, Although it was offered and not enough interest was shown.  CB&Q Aeolus (yes, another plug for this one) Please!

Us Pennsy fans need to see another unique PRR steam engine. Its been a LONG TIME since a new PRR steam engine was released.

Looking for the following:

K5 and/ or K3 (also with N&W)

USRA 2-10-2 N2 class

PRR rebuilt N2sa sub class

I'll add another.  A PRR B8a, a 0-6-0T, that ran until the 50s.  Might not sell well since many forum members have stated a small engine should have a small price, and a nicely detailed B8a would not have a small price.

So let's go big.  A true 3rd Rail PRR S2, not the Williams one they first sold, with full electronics and with the elephant ears it had later in life.

Ron,

Love that S2.  Too bad that there was only one made.  I have the Lionel version and it is pretty nice.  I would be hard pressed for another. 

Now that PRR 2-10-2  N2 or the B8a, BINGO!!!!

Norm

@prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Us Pennsy fans need to see another unique PRR steam engine. Its been a LONG TIME since a new PRR steam engine was released.

Looking for the following:

K5 and/ or K3 (also with N&W)

USRA 2-10-2 N2 class

PRR rebuilt N2sa sub class

 

The USRA Heavy 2-10-2 was bought by five railroads, with PRR getting the majority. Starting in 1923 they were rebuilt with Belpaire fireboxes and PRR boiler fronts, plus some other details, plus some/many got Lines West tenders. They kept the USRA cab.
So: could 3rd Rail offer both the USRA design and the revised PRR version and would it sell? I suspect not, since they didn't show up in the East, the I-1 getting honors.

As long as we are wishing for what will never be, let's add the Reading K-class 2-10-2.

I would absolutely love a well built, accurate Kanawha:

Hi all,

Anybody out there want a Virginian FM Train Master to go with the Virginian Hoppers instead of or in addition to the E-60?

Curiously,

Ed

@Ed Kelly posted:

Hi all,

Anybody out there want a Virginian FM Train Master to go with the Virginian Hoppers instead of or in addition to the E-60?

Curiously,

Ed

I would be interested in an FM. 

New York Central K-class Pacific. There are numerous versions of NYC Hudsons, Niagaras and switchers. Why not this one?

MELGAR

I'd like to see a Mogul type. Small locomotives have the advantage of being able to run on small layouts. Seems to me that Moguls were pretty similar from one railroad to another. Therefore, it might be possible to offer several railroads with only minor differences in details. That could help the price/volume trade-off.

MELGAR

Lots of 3rd Rail fans here. So I imagine also Sunset Golden Gate fans too. Check out new thread

“GGD Missouri Pacific EAGLE”

thread in the “O Gauge, O 27, Traditional“ section.  We try to get support to get “Eagle” Passenger Trains into production. This would be Colorado Eagle and Texas Eagle with its MP and T&P components, extra cars, domes for the Colorado, Jenk blue extras, other road thru sleepers, N de M connection, And a push for (At least MP?) E6 run2. If you’d like to join our effort, come visit the thread, read about our ideas, add your comments, and ...... let Scott know you would be a buyer too. Big step is getting Scott to think it could be commercially viable - for him to post up announcement with reservations link. It’s early but it won’t happen if those that are interested aren’t Vocal !!!! 
Cheers !!!

TrainBub

I'm in for a set

I'd like to see an earlier PRR pacific, specifically a K2.    The PRR had about 225 of these and also about 30 K3 that were pretty much the same externally.    And N&W bought 5 or 6 of them for their passenger service.    I think it would be fun to have a PRR pacific other than a K4, which I had 2 of before Sunset did them the last time.

A New York Central K-class Pacific and a Boston & Albany version.

MELGAR

All us guys wishing for the likely-impossible. You want a loco? Gather 100 of your best friends and promise 3rd Rail to buy same when produced. The good news is that the length of time until your heart's desire arrives will allow sufficient time for negotiation of the sale of your first-born.

This works, as I gaze lovingly at my B&O Q-4b, T-3, P-7d plus Cincinnatian coaches.

My wish is for the F45/FP45.  It has been mentioned in several posts.  NH Joe

@rex desilets posted:

This works, as I gaze lovingly at my B&O Q-4b, T-3, P-7d plus Cincinnatian coaches.

C'mon Rex. No EM-1 or S-i ?

WHATS NICE ABOUT SCOTT  IS    ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS ASK !!!!!! THANK GOODNESS HE IS HERE FOR US       THANKS

@Ed Kelly posted:

Hi all,

Anybody out there want a Virginian FM Train Master to go with the Virginian Hoppers instead of or in addition to the E-60?

Curiously,

Ed

If it the H24-66 was offered in CNJ, I'd add one but substitute it for the E60?  Nope.  I grew up with that locomotive for better or worse.  I'm ordering 3 when I finally get on the order page and sort out my mess of 3rd Rail / GGD orders.

I've advocated for a PRR K2 for a while too.  Just a unique take on the Pennsy Pacific.

Any of the following: N2,B6 slopeback tender,and this K2 is interesting.

I am not holding my breath,though.

Norm

I think it time to queue up a E5,6 Run#2. Offer up all the originals but add repaint later versions too. I’d be in for a MP in Jenks Blue. And an original MP would go wonderfully with an “Eagle” Consist. 
(Perhaps this can be appended to the EA E1 offering to help reach aspired run numbers 😬)