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@GG1 4877 posted:

If it the H24-66 was offered in CNJ, I'd add one but substitute it for the E60?  Nope.  I grew up with that locomotive for better or worse.  I'm ordering 3 when I finally get on the order page and sort out my mess of 3rd Rail / GGD orders.

I've advocated for a PRR K2 for a while too.  Just a unique take on the Pennsy Pacific.

I am more interested in H16-44's but in the later years of production. When they cut back the "streamlining" 

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Hello Everyone!

I thought it might be helpful to start a 3rd Rail Wishlist thread so that we can have a place to state our requests for future Sunset engines!

I know we all have our favorite engines, and railroads, and I just want to say no matter what my personal favorites may be...  it's nice to see everyone's wishes for what they would like 3rd Rail to make, and I'm all for seeing rare, and new cool steam engines being done. 

My vote, would be for something never before done in O scale...

How about an O scale ATSF 5000 Class Madame Queen?  It could be offered in as built, and in later versions... 

What engines would you like Sunset to make? MQ-1--web-site_c1bf0729-5056-a36f-23bc04c99bcf700b

 

 

I would be in for this one.

@alextwister posted:

How about a small logging Mikado like the Oregon Pacific and Eastern #19. I don't think this locomotive was ever modeled in any scale.

Or as Caddo and Choctaw Railroad #4 (as built 1915,) Cia de Real del Monte y Pachuca  #105 (1920,) McCloud River Railroad #19 (1924,)  Yreka Western #19(1953,) besides OP&E #19 (1970.)  The Yreka Western repurchased the 19 in 1988 for tourist train service.  In 2016 the 19 was purchased by Age of Steam.

Movies: Emperor of the North, Stand by Me.

Quite a busy history for the locomotive.

Rusty

@WITZ 41 posted:

Happy to chime in.  I just need 99 more of you to chime in too!  I already talked to Scott about it.  He's not optimistic after offering and cancelling the earlier 3 cylinder version.  Only the SP version was made.  However, I would posit that the late version would have more interest due to period of operation 1942-1954 during steam's zenith.

Like many unique Union Pacific power it's been done in HO but never in O.  UP 4-10-2 (late) #5090-5099.  They used oil tenders converted from the 9000 series.  After being simplified to 2 cylinder operation in 1942 they ran as late as 1954 on the Cajon pass.  Big, Brutish, and Beautiful.

#5097 would be the must have cab number.  It survived in operation the longest.

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The Streamliner Vol. 7 No. 1 has some great photos and info on the 4-10-2s in it's discussion of the Cajon Pass....

The Streamliner Vol. 7 No. 1 CoverThe Streamliner Vol.7 No. 1 pg. 20The Streamliner Vol.7 No.1 back Cover

but alas, there only seems to be a market for more Hudsons or another F3/F7........I'll take my singular wishes and go cry tears of self pity, by myself, curled up in the corner now.....

I could go for this one too.

@CAPPilot posted:

They don't often reissue an engine, but if they did a postwar PRR E-6s Atlantic would be nice.

A correctly sized postwar PRR A-5 0-4-0 would also be nice.  Wonder if they can stuff ERR command and sound system in it, along with smoke.

They can be found in the market place.  I searched and found this one. 

Another Pennsy request in this list, was an I1 decapod, also done by Sunset sometime ago.  Both are relatively easy upgrades to more modern electronics.  The I1 gearing is unique, 30 to 1 gear ration, runs well at low speed, without new electronics. .    Top in picture.  I believe it was also done with a short tender.  

Weaver had done the small A5. 

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Mike,

While I have found a couple of great ERR installers, overall I have had varying success with upgrades in my Weaver, Williams, and 3rd Rail brass engines.  I would be more interested in a new E6 or A5 with factory installed command control.  However, every time that 3rd Rail E6 or Weaver A5 comes up for sale, it takes a lot of will power not to buy them.

 

 

Yes! Yes!! Yes!!!

Shawn and Brian!

1942-1954 simple operation FTT !

In a heartbeat I would order two!

#5097 2R and #5093 in 3R

Scott, please announce and test the waters for reservations.  I know you tried the earlier 3 cyl version but the later #5090s prototype was a workhorse during steam's most popular period.  A MUST HAVE for any UP fan.

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I know a few others who would be in for one or two as well.

Will

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I would love to see a couple of UK engines:  The "Flying Scotsman", which was the first UK steam engine to hit 100 miles per hour, and the "Mallard", which was the fastest steam engine, hitting 126 mph.  I believe 3rd rail made these several years ago.  I believe when 3rd Rail made these they were brass.  I would be happy with brass, or die cast, as long as the detail and quality are good. There are many of these available in O gauge 2 rail DC, but my interest is O gauge 3 rail AC. 

Numerous interesting engines outside the US, but in HO.  UK also has 00 engines which are popular, also DC though..  O gauge is limited in popularity outside US and where it is available, it is 2 rail, DC.

If 3rd Rail makes the two engines I mentioned "my deposit money is in hand and waiting".  Thanks!

 

@AMF posted:

I would love to see a couple of UK engines:  The "Flying Scotsman", which was the first UK steam engine to hit 100 miles per hour, and the "Mallard", which was the fastest steam engine, hitting 126 mph.  I believe 3rd rail made these several years ago.  I believe when 3rd Rail made these they were brass.  I would be happy with brass, or die cast, as long as the detail and quality are good. There are many of these available in O gauge 2 rail DC, but my interest is O gauge 3 rail AC. 

Numerous interesting engines outside the US, but in HO.  UK also has 00 engines which are popular, also DC though..  O gauge is limited in popularity outside US and where it is available, it is 2 rail, DC.

If 3rd Rail makes the two engines I mentioned "my deposit money is in hand and waiting".  Thanks!

 

Ditto.  Europeans who model in Maerklin get the benefit of Challengers and Big Boys, why can't we have Flying Scotsmen and Mallards over here??  I'd love to have some international variety on my 3 rail AC tracks.

Granted I can't fit any of the huge O-72 engines but even if Third Rail could squeeze down to O54 (or O36??), I'd probably get a Flying Scotsman or a Mallard that carried command control and a good smoke unit.  (Especially with whistle steam - I'm a big fan of the bells and whistles   Of course, then I'd need to get passenger cars as well...

Hello BC1989 and all:  This brings up what might be an interesting opportunity.  Here in the USA, so many of us model three rail AC O gauge.....why, because it is what we grew up with.  We started layouts, "invested" in engines, and railroad cars, track, etc. And the clock keeps on ticking as we added more "stuff"......No regrets from me though!  If I had it to do all over again, with the advances that have been made in 2 rail DC, I would probably have gone to 2 rail O gauge, DC....who knows though.  To change over now to 2 rail DC would be a problem and significant expense (at least for me anyhow, as I have lots of 3 rail AC rolling stock) and quite frankly, I am just plain familiar and comfortable with 3 rail O gauge.  And besides, the "attitude" in 3 rail O gauge here is basically what I am in alignment with....for example; I like the detail we have come to expect, the "bells and whistles", but I also like the whimsy as well......  ie: I have a mix of Railking, Premier, Atlas, Kline, Weaver, Lionel.....and I have a haunted house on the layout, and I have the Menards Martian thing....all on one layout.  I have "American" engines and cars, and I love them, but I also have some of the MTH European engines and cars, and I love them as well! (my layout, my stuff!)

With MTH auctioning off their warehouse items, and supposedly shutting down, this might be an opportunity for someone to start to produce the European and Asian models, and even other international rolling stock that to me would be very interesting.   This is only done today in either HO (1:87).... or OO in UK (1:76)......with very limited O gauge DC. (UK is 1:43.5) (Europe is 1:45 scale) ......very close to our 1:48 O gauge scale.  The MTH European items that MTH did, are very nice, they run well, and they were well priced.  I wish I had bought more of it. I missed the opportunity to purchase the Sunset/3rd Rail engines that I mentioned in a previous post.....perhaps at the time I felt they were too expensive as they were brass.  I may be mistaken, but didn't MTH produce engines and rolling stock that could be converted between AC and DC and 3 rail to 2 rail and vice versa?.....I realize this adds cost, but for a manufacturer, this could add significant opportunities both here and abroad, and help amortize costs over a larger market.  Perhaps making these products open to more markets would open the door to more variety for us here in the US.  I recently subscribed to Hornby magazine (UK publication).  I just received my first issue, and I am amazed at the selection and variety of what is available in the UK.  (Very little about O gauge, and limited to O gauge 2 rail DC) They appear to have a very large and very serious, model train customer base. Perhaps some company can make a business case for allowing us to expand our selections?  I would really love to see an American company do this.

My 2 cents (which is probably worth only 1 cent these days any how)

 

Jaw dropping! Some body just posted on here they didn't know what a McKeen car is!  That is the story l heard after MTH canceled my order for one. (Was my first and last big ticket MTH pre-order,..why bother if won't be made?). Several have been done in two rail and HO, so somebody knows what they are.  I bet there are people who know what a Mack railbus is, also done in two rail, HO, and G, as that one that runs in the York hall, but, of  course, not in three rail. Well, with no interesting rolling stock, l build structures, and am filling in gaps in another long dormant hobby.

Jaw dropping! Some body just posted on here they didn't know what a McKeen car is!  That is the story l heard after MTH canceled my order for one. (Was my first and last big ticket MTH pre-order,..why bother if won't be made?). Several have been done in two rail and HO, so somebody knows what they are.  I bet there are people who know what a Mack railbus is, also done in two rail, HO, and G, as that one that runs in the York hall, but, of  course, not in three rail. Well, with no interesting rolling stock, l build structures, and am filling in gaps in another long dormant hobby.

A McKeen would be cool.  Years away from what I model but I’d reserve/buy one strictly from a historical perspective.

@colorado hirailer posted:Jaw dropping! Some body just posted on here they didn't know what a McKeen car is!  That is the story l heard after MTH canceled my order for one. (Was my first and last big ticket MTH pre-order,..why bother if won't be made?). Several have been done in two rail and HO, so somebody knows what they are.  I bet there are people who know what a Mack railbus is, also done in two rail, HO, and G, as that one that runs in the York hall, but, of  course, not in three rail. Well, with no interesting rolling stock, l build structures, and am filling in gaps in another long dormant hobby.

My HO Mack Railbus ...   The McKeen motor car is cool in a Jules Verne kind of sense, but personally I don't have a use for one in my current layout planning.

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I have said this several times on this post I think, but I'll say it again. I think there are enough buyers that an Erie K5 Pacific could be done. It is a beautiful locomotive that would compliment the recent Erie Berkshire. GGD Stillwell passenger cars could be done to compliment them. There are many variations of the K5 that one could choose from.

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The K5 is my favorite steam engine. Given time to save up I would be interested in 3 engines and sets of cars. If I am having a good bonus year I may even try to squeeze out 4. The only chance this engine ever gets done again is if Scott takes on the project. The Max Gray version is nice, but really old. I'd rather invest in new ones from Scott.

Who's with me?

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@jonnyspeed posted:

I have said this several times on this post I think, but I'll say it again. I think there are enough buyers that an Erie K5 Pacific could be done. It is a beautiful locomotive that would compliment the recent Erie Berkshire. GGD Stillwell passenger cars could be done to compliment them. There are many variations of the K5 that one could choose from.

Erie loco NJ



The K5 is my favorite steam engine. Given time to save up I would be interested in 3 engines and sets of cars. If I am having a good bonus year I may even try to squeeze out 4. The only chance this engine ever gets done again is if Scott takes on the project. The Max Gray version is nice, but really old. I'd rather invest in new ones from Scott.

Who's with me?

I am totally on board with any variant of an Erie K-class Pacific.  I've been trying to put together a kitbashing project to create one, but have yet to find an appropriate boiler.  At this point I have collected enough GGD Erie passenger cars that I can approximate the Erie Limited, so really need an engine.

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Let me also pose a very left-field suggestion.  Since GGD has now entered the O42 market with 18" semi-scale passenger cars, how about releasing an accurate representation of the fictional Polar Express cars with a correct observation platform?  Many of us run a variant of this around the holidays, and the Lionel offerings (both O27 and scale) are lacking when compared to the representations in the book and/or movie.

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Let me also pose a very left-field suggestion.  Since GGD has now entered the O42 market with 18" semi-scale passenger cars, how about releasing an accurate representation of the fictional Polar Express cars with a correct observation platform?  Many of us run a variant of this around the holidays, and the Lionel offerings (both O27 and scale) are lacking when compared to the representations in the book and/or movie.

Two words:  Licensing Fee.

Rusty

@MELGAR posted:

Everyone seems to own a New York Central Hudson but, to my knowledge, no model manufacturer has made a New York Central K-class Pacific. The type was also used on the Boston & Albany Railroad. There are many NYC fans, so getting sufficient orders might not be too difficult.

MELGAR

Sorry but I have to tell ya that I am part of "everyone" yet i never owned, wanted to own, or even care to own a NYC Hudson or sny other Hudson. Now K4's... well thats a different story!

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