3rd Rail Wishlist Request Future Engines

CAPPilot posted:

3rd Rail is coming out with ALCO FA-1 and FA-2 diesels.  What I would buy is the as delivered Pennsy paint scheme on a FA-1, which 3rd Rail is not making.  They are doing the Pennsy on their FA-2, but the FA-2 has been done by others and is too late for my era.  Anyone else interested in a Pennsy FA-1?  A FA-1/FB-1 set would be great.

Ron's post prompts me to ask how those FA1 and FA2 orders are doing.  There has been a lot of information coming from 3rd Rail on many projects except this one.

I am gathering material to finally scratch build 4 cabooses l have procrastinated on, two different Colorado Midland sidedoors, and two identical FEC sidedoors, as sold to the Great Western, and several other roads .  I have a bashed Great Western 2-8-0, but  no #90, to pull the GW cabeese, and have the GW decals.  I would certainly buy a #90, and a CM 4-6-0 or 2-8-0 as they used for their columbine specials, up Ute Pass, but no hope for either of these last.  I have five CM cars to pull and located decals for two more that may have to also be scratched, an auto car and stock.  #90 seems long overdue, with all the fans that have seen and ridden behind it.

colorado hirailer posted:

 I have a bashed Great Western 2-8-0, but  no #90, to pull the GW cabeese, and have the GW decals. 

What did you use as a starting point for a Great Western 2-8-0? There doesn't seem to be many 2-8-0 options in O scale.

CAPPilot posted:

3rd Rail is coming out with ALCO FA-1 and FA-2 diesels.  What I would buy is the as delivered Pennsy paint scheme on a FA-1, which 3rd Rail is not making.  They are doing the Pennsy on their FA-2, but the FA-2 has been done by others and is too late for my era.  Anyone else interested in a Pennsy FA-1?  A FA-1/FB-1 set would be great.

If you gotta have a FA-1 in PRR, why not the Williams offering? Add ERR electronics and do a bit of upgrade work (swinging pilot elimination, etc) and you get what you want with a considerable savings.

rex desilets posted:

CAPPilot posted:

  Anyone else interested in a Pennsy FA-1?  A FA-1/FB-1 set would be great.

If you gotta have a FA-1 in PRR, why not the Williams offering? Add ERR electronics and do a bit of upgrade work (swinging pilot elimination, etc) and you get what you want with a considerable savings.

Rex, Thanks.  I'll look at the Williams.  I did not think anyone did the shorter FA-1 in 1:48.

CAPPilot posted:

3rd Rail is coming out with ALCO FA-1 and FA-2 diesels.  What I would buy is the as delivered Pennsy paint scheme on a FA-1, which 3rd Rail is not making.  They are doing the Pennsy on their FA-2, but the FA-2 has been done by others and is too late for my era.  Anyone else interested in a Pennsy FA-1?  A FA-1/FB-1 set would be great.

I am and I brought this up to Scott Mann's attention when the model was first announced. Unfortunately 3 railers are not buying much of his offerings so the two rail guys are in command and dictate what they are looking in demand. Oh well. Time to spruce up the Williams FA-1.

prrhorseshoecurve posted:

CAPPilot posted:

.......Anyone else interested in a Pennsy FA-1?  A FA-1/FB-1 set would be great.

I am and I brought this up to Scott Mann's attention when the model was first announced. Unfortunately 3 railers are not buying much of his offerings so the two rail guys are in command and dictate what they are looking in demand. Oh well. Time to spruce up the Williams FA-1.

I did a search for the Williams FA-1 and did not see a Pennsy version.  Also, the B-unit is not powered.  It looks like a well detailed engine so I'll continue researching it.  However, I would still like a 3rd Rail version.

Let's get back to that Santa Fe 5000 Class 

A bunch of Santa Fe people tried to get Scott to do a Prairie, or one of the smaller Santa Fe engines. There wasn't enough demand. I can't imagine "Madame Queen" going by without enough demand. Even Gary Shrader would probably pick one up. It would save him from building one. It's a magnificent engine. I could go on, but...

MADAME QUEEN would mighty fine, Howard!!! Picture her with Norm’s upcoming express autocars on full allied trucks!!

Picture: Otto Perry, Denver Public Library.

Santiago-That would be excellent! But here's another one. For years, I've been trying to get Scott to do a 3 or 4 pack of Santa Fe heavyweight coaches. I think it could only be done as a brass offering. Same car with different numbers.

They were unique. I think Santa Fe fans would jump at the offering.

Yes on the heavyweights!!!!!!!

Brass heavyweights would be HOT!!!! 

SANTIAGOP23 posted:

MADAME QUEEN would mighty fine, Howard!!! Picture her with Norm’s upcoming express autocars on full allied trucks!!

Santiago, I don't disagree, but the Santa Fe cars are sold out. 30 for each run. However, there are a few other road names that are still available. 

Marker, the brass heavyweights are an interesting idea. How many cars do you think the market could support? The express cars (mentioned above) are about $311.00 each. I think a good heavyweight might come in at at close to $800 each on the low end. On the positive side, everyone who has a 2900 class, 3700 class and the older 3751 class, could be considered customers.

Anything Santa Fe always makes for good reading.

Charlie

Charlie, I meant the new batch of Protocraft 50’ express and boxcars coming week this year. 

The latest brass cars from Scott were Hiawatha super domes and the army hospital cars... they are the best!!!! If someone can make them for around $600 it would be a gift. 

I don't own any 3rd Rail products, but I really can't wait to do so, as their stuff is very magnificent and not many other models in O scale can compare to 3rd Rail stuff, at least in terms of detail and realism. I definitely have my own wish list of stuff I would love to see them do, even if I can't afford it lol.

Bombardier M7 - The only one we have is the Lionel version, which I like very much, but it was designed as a ready-to-run train set with children in mind. I would lose my mind if somebody made a scale version of these things.

Budd M1/M2/M3/M4 - As far as I know, nobody made these in O scale at all, and I think that's a shame.

Difco dump car - I would like to get a very-realistic model of these. They're really awesome IMO, and I would love to have at least a few of them.

carnerd3000 posted:

I don't own any 3rd Rail products, but I really can't wait to do so, as their stuff is very magnificent and not many other models in O scale can compare to 3rd Rail stuff, at least in terms of detail and realism. I definitely have my own wish list of stuff I would love to see them do, even if I can't afford it lol.

Bombardier M7 - The only one we have is the Lionel version, which I like very much, but it was designed as a ready-to-run train set with children in mind. I would lose my mind if somebody made a scale version of these things.

Budd M1/M2/M3/M4 - As far as I know, nobody made these in O scale at all, and I think that's a shame.

Difco dump car - I would like to get a very-realistic model of these. They're really awesome IMO, and I would love to have at least a few of them.

Ok so what is wrong with the MTH operating model?

prrhorseshoecurve - I have no problem with MTH's version. In fact, I plan on getting at least some of their cars. But I believe that if 3rd Rail make some of their own, they will look way better than the MTH versions. Only thing I wonder is if they would be operating cars, but I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't. As much as I like MTH, I know they aren't the best when it comes to being prototypical.

SANTIAGOP23 posted:

Charlie, I meant the new batch of Protocraft 50’ express and boxcars coming week this year. 

The latest brass cars from Scott were Hiawatha super domes and the army hospital cars... they are the best!!!! If someone can make them for around $600 it would be a gift. 

My mistake Santiago, I read the word "express autocar" and just assumed it was the 40' version. For those interested, the Protocraft site has the express car (50') on the web site up for order. The Protocraft stuff is just fantastic and a good place for some decals and a few add on parts as well. 

Charlie

N&W Y-4 would be awesome.

marker posted:

For years, I've been trying to get Scott to do a 3 or 4 pack of Santa Fe heavyweight coaches. I think it could only be done as a brass offering. Same car with different numbers.

They were unique. I think Santa Fe fans would jump at the offering.

I think multiple brass chair cars are out of my price range, Howard, but I could not pass them up if they were offered in plastic.  If you start a thread to see who would commit, I'll put a yes on it. 

what is happening to their NYC H10 offering?

Would like to see a UP Challenger, UP F9's and SD70ACe's.

tangoman posted:

what is happening to their NYC H10 offering?

Not enough reservations yet. Need about 15 or so additional reservations to begin production.

vash44 posted:

Would like to see a UP Challenger,

UP Challengers have been WAY overproduced! MTH has issued their models over, and over, and OVER, and Lionel has done the same. Sunset/3rd Rail also issued a model of the early UP Challenger, which show up occasionally on eBay. 

UP F9's

Could be a possibility for future production.

and SD70ACe's.

I think you will find that Sunset/3rd Rail tends to NOT produce "modern" diesel units, which both MTH and Lionel offer.

Hot Water posted:

vash44 posted:

Would like to see a UP Challenger,

UP Challengers have been WAY overproduced! MTH has issued their models over, and over, and OVER, and Lionel has done the same. Sunset/3rd Rail also issued a model of the early UP Challenger, which show up occasionally on eBay. 

UP F9's

Could be a possibility for future production.

and SD70ACe's.

I think you will find that Sunset/3rd Rail tends to NOT produce "modern" diesel units, which both MTH and Lionel offer.

 Understand most are likely sick of seeing the Challenger. To me MTH's proportion of loco over drive wheels are off. I do have a pair of the Lionels varients. GGD are just top notch in every way!  The F9's would be great to see. I will say as well I doubt they will ever make an ACE, but another favorite of mine. 

Please rerun the El Cap cars.....please....

Donald

rheil posted:

tangoman posted:

what is happening to their NYC H10 offering?

Not enough reservations yet. Need about 15 or so additional reservations to begin production.

I've said before, if you want a particular model that doesn't command the loyalty of many folk (not every model need be PRR), you have to work at it. I view my lovely B&O steamers, including the magnificent Cincinnatian, and reflect on how earnestly and devotedly we asked,  and promised reservations for, them.

Having Mr. Heil on our side did help, of course.

Perhaps not the totally correct place to ask, but does anyone have a list of all the models 3rd rail has previously run, or at least the steam they've produced? I'm curious what in the roads I model they have done long in the past I may have missed.

Andrew B. posted:

 I'm curious what in the roads I model they have done long in the past I may have missed.

What railroads do you model ?

rheil posted:

Andrew B. posted:

 I'm curious what in the roads I model they have done long in the past I may have missed.

What railroads do you model ?

B&O, PRR, Western Maryland, Erie, and the little branch lines in Maryland and southern Pennsylvania.

I've only been involved in model railroading since 2015, and the scale side for about a year, maybe two.

I've got a T3, hoping to get an L1s, but wonder what I've missed and which I need to be looking out for.

I would be interested in a Boston and Maine 10 wheeler.  Never made in O gauge to the best of my knowledge.

Sunset / 3rd Rail has done the following:

B&O - E-24, P-7e, P-7d, S-1, Q-4, EM-1, T-3, T-4

PRR - L1, Q1, Q2, S1, S2, T1, M1a and b, K4, N1 or 2 can't recall which, J1, I1

SGP:. I used a Lionel starter set 0-8-0, a pilot truck, and a lot of grinding to get the Belpaire and other blips  off it.  The GW #60 is a small 2-8-0 (it was still running on a tourist road), and l do not claim this is a good model, but it will have to do until somebody does #90.  I really need those GW bright orange ex-FEC cabooses.

rheil posted:

Sunset / 3rd Rail has done the following:

S2

Keep in mind the PRR S2 was a Williams' product that never shipped before they went bankrupt.  Sunset bought the engines and sold them as their first 3rd Rail product.  These engines are not the same high quality as the 3rd Rail stuff since then.

The PRR N2 was not produced by 3rd Rail.  They also sold the I1 with short and long tenders.  Not sure they did both the M1a and M1b; I'll have to research that.

Another engine they are not going to produce is their current in production FA-1 in Pennsy colors.  Rats.

CAPPilot posted:

Not sure they did both the M1a and M1b; I'll have to research that.

 

They definitely did both the M1a and M1b.  I recall at the time they were released, both MTH and Lionel had also released models (MTH M1b and Lionel M1a).  The MTH, Lionel and 3rd Rail were all within $50 of each other.  Talk about a 3rd Rail bargain!

It should also be noted that the Q1 and S1 were both done "as built" with full streamlining and as they appeared later in service with some streamlining removed.  They also did 3 versions of the T1: the original two with long taper on the nose (this version also done by MTH), the version with shorter nose taper and 3 portholes on the sides of the pilot (brass models of this version also done by Williams and Weaver) and the later version with dual headlights and no portholes (this version also done by Lionel).  When 3rd Rail does a locomotive, they do it right. 

I'm taking delivery of the Lionel M1B that was offered in the last Stout auction. I also purchased from Stout the 3rd rail M1b as well.

I purchased Hot Water's J3a Hudson when he sold his collection on Stout.  Nicely weathered, converted to kadee.  Makes five 3rdrail engines I have with more on reservation.

I don't know if 3rd rail has already done this... How about the EMC doodlebug?

It'd be nice to have a scale doodlebug and they were used by enough railroads so Scott can list multiple road names instead of just one. 

Bryce

A scale EMC Doodlebug would be a nice addition to less modeled trains.  3rd Rail did do a brass Brill 660 Gas Electric (or diesel electric after 1940 or so).  They show up for sale now and then.  Here are some photos of mine.

The sound card in the model, which has TMCC, sounds like a diesel so this is a post 1940 version of the Brill 660.

Absolutely gorgeous Ron! 

Bryce