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Last Friday some friends and I headed over to the Mystic Lake trailhead south of Fishtail, MT. We chose not to proceed with the hike due to falling temperatures and increasing wind speeds, but I did take the chance to investigate an interesting tramway in the area.

The Montana Power Company completed the Mystic Lake hydroelectric facility in 1924. It is still in use today. It routes water from a high mountain lake (Mystic Lake) through a pipeline along the edge of a mountain, and then down a steep grade into the turbine house at the bottom of the hill. To transport materials and crew to construct the pipeline, dam, and other structures on the mountain, a tramway was built with two sections: one with a cable-assist to go up the initial 1000 foot climb, and one to snake along the side of the mountain to the dam.

The tramway is still in use today in order to maintain the facility (I found a few pictures and one video online), but none of the mobile tram equipment made an appearance during my brief visit last Friday. Still, it was rather exciting to see this secluded, historic "railway" that has seen consistent use for nearly 100 years. Using rudimentary methods (the terrain visual on Google Maps) I figured the tramway elevation gain is 1,000 feet over a run of 2,250 feet, giving a 44.4% grade.

I see the now-defunct Mount Manitou Scenic Incline Railway had a maximum grade of 68%; does anybody know of other extreme "railway" grades like these? And does anyone have a working model of one?

(Forgive me for the attached portrait instead of landscape-formatted images)

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  • photo4936312227074517401: The tramway and me
  • photo4936312227074517400: A warning to stay away from the tracks
  • photo4936312227074517399: The turbine building (and tram storage too)
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I don't know if it counts, but apparently in Chicago they had tunnels under the Chicago river for cable cars and then electric street cars that had an incredibly steep grade. I don't remember the exact details but the grade on them sounds like it was at least 50% (stumbled on this on You Tube). They were so steep that when they got rid of the streetcars over time they thought about making them road tunnels, but the incline was so steep that cars and trucks wouldn't be able to handle it and they sealed them off.

The tunnels in Chicago were built to deliver coal and goods to the buildings in the city originally.  We investigated them in

80's as a good way to get fiber optics into a lot of the buildings and under the river. Back around then or slightly

thereafter a contractor was putting a piling into the river and penetrated the roof of the tunnels. It took a few days

to seal the hole so many of the tunnels were innundated.

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The tunnels in Chicago were built to deliver coal and goods to the buildings in the city originally.  We investigated them in

80's as a good way to get fiber optics into a lot of the buildings and under the river. Back around then or slightly

thereafter a contractor was putting a piling into the river and penetrated the roof of the tunnels. It took a few days

to seal the hole so many of the tunnels were innundated.

These are different tunnels, the ones you are talking about were used by the post office and such to deliver things. These were tunnels under the river to allow the streetcars to transit the whole city . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trCkptXQc1E is one example I watched. It is interesting, they were developed for wagons and pedestrians, were found to be too cold and damp and steep, then they were able to use cable cars and streetcars in there. I always knew streetcars had interesting gearing, but wow.

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