A Brand New Lionel Steam Locomotive Model?

They did those engines a good decade or more ago with TMCC. They are not "new tooling" but new in the sense they've never been done with Legacy and haven't been made in years. 

The only possible "mistake" mentioned is the listing of having the swinging bell as a feature but it will be "investigated" to see if it can be worked in. If it does have the swinging bell and smoking whistle, it will be the deal of the century at $750. 

I ordered the whole set as I have always like Lionel's models of the cars included but never bought them. 

SJC posted:

If it does have the swinging bell and smoking whistle, it will be the deal of the century at $750. 

 

$750??? whose payin $750???  They can be preordered for under $650.

Heres it is in the original TMCC version where it was listed as an H-9

About a year after Lionel brought out a newly tooled PRR E6 - think about 2000 - there appeared in a catalogue a mock up of the H9 using the E6 boiler and the Harriman 2-8-0 chassis with no outside running gear. Apparently it was released  but never heard from again until 2018. Was not going to purchase any more Lionel but at a street price of 675 guess I will.

ns1001 posted:

  Was not going to purchase any more Lionel but at a street price of 675 guess I will.

Street price is below $630 until March 30th

That Belpaire boiler slope looks too steep.  Is it an optical illusion?  There are plenty of photos and drawings to work from for the PRR Consolidations.

Where?

ns1001 posted:

Where?

RO

Dealers aren't supposed to post their prices publicly.

Either add it to your cart  online and go to checkout to see the price, or you and phone them and ask.

Now Legacy, Whistle steam, fan driven smoke! Not a bad deal.  Very Nice!

2001 V1 $650.00

http://www.lionel.com/products...idation-1111-6-28086

Speaking of new, and since I'm not buying the PRR Consol, there is plenty plenty of data and the like to offer one of these husky dudes, too. Might be able to use the same frame and driver spacing as the PRR above too. Save a little tooling cost.

Just sayin'.

"Might be able to use the same frame and driver spacing as the PRR above too. Save a little tooling cost."

Why not?  They used the same frame and driver spacing as their U.P. Harriman consolidation for the PRR.  Totally wrong for a PRR consolidation by the way. 

In the rushing days of my youth I bought one of the Lionel H10s.  It never looked right to me.  I saw that all the pictures of H10s showed a footboard pilot and coal bunker on the tender, a different proportion of the boiler.....ah what the heck....I traded it in on an MTH version of an H10 that looked much more realistic.  Check it out.   

Odd-d posted:

In the rushing days of my youth I bought one of the Lionel H10s.  It never looked right to me.  I saw that all the pictures of H10s showed a footboard pilot and coal bunker on the tender, a different proportion of the boiler.....ah what the heck....I traded it in on an MTH version of an H10 that looked much more realistic.  Check it out.   

The MTH H10:

Rusty

Regarding the Pennsylvania H10 2-8-0 does anyone know the catalog number of the H10 that Lionel released in the late 90s or early 2000s? I checked in the Lionel (Kalmbach price guide) but was unable to find it. I will try to do more research.

ed new haven line posted:

Regarding the Pennsylvania H10 2-8-0 does anyone know the catalog number of the H10 that Lionel released in the late 90s or early 2000s? I checked in the Lionel (Kalmbach price guide) but was unable to find it. I will try to do more research.

They called it an H9 when they released it in 2001.  Catalog link below.

http://www.lionel.com/products...dation-1111-6-28086/

Gentlemen,

   Because I already have the MTH DCS P2 2-8-0 version of this engine, I probably will not spring for the Legacy version, however the TMCC version sure does look great.  If the Legacy version runs as well as the MTH P2 it will be a great Legacy engine and well worth owning.

PCRR/Dave

All this talk about swinging bells and the locomotive didn't even have one in real life. 

J 611 posted:

All this talk about swinging bells and the locomotive didn't even have one in real life. 

Really? Since the H8/H9/H10 classes were all built prior to 1917, how would the bell have been rung, back then? When were the internal air powered bell ringers developed?

Hot Water posted:

J 611 posted:

All this talk about swinging bells and the locomotive didn't even have one in real life. 

Really? Since the H8/H9/H10 classes were all built prior to 1917, how would the bell have been rung, back then? When were the internal air powered bell ringers developed?

I went through some old Keystone magazines and the builder's photo of the first L1s 2-8-2 in April of 1914 clearly shows an air ringer.  A photo of a new H8 on a turntable also shows an air ringer (air line rising vertically from the boiler next to the bell bracket) and this photo appears to be dated 1907.

ed new haven line posted:

Regarding the Pennsylvania H10 2-8-0 does anyone know the catalog number of the H10 that Lionel released in the late 90s or early 2000s? I checked in the Lionel (Kalmbach price guide) but was unable to find it. I will try to do more research.

I did find out that this locomotive was cataloged in 2001 volume 1 and 2 catalogs. It was then that I realized that I own the Southern Pacific 2-8-0 also pictured in these catalogs so I will pass on the Pennsylvania model. Thank you all for your information and comments.

Lionel Catalog Number is 6-28086

Hot Water posted:

J 611 posted:

All this talk about swinging bells and the locomotive didn't even have one in real life. 

Really? Since the H8/H9/H10 classes were all built prior to 1917, how would the bell have been rung, back then? When were the internal air powered bell ringers developed?

How about a Chord going all the way back to the cab?

Same old stuff over and over again from Lionel and MTH but with higher prices. I'm not buying anything.....