Anyone else interested in an “Amtrak” ACS-64?

I have proposed this model in O scale/gauge in several OGR Forum threads and would buy two or three. I believe it would have high sales in multiple production runs. Not clear to me why it hasn't already been produced in O... The ACS-64s travel through the most densely populated area of the US. Many people have seen and ridden behind them.

MELGAR

I always thought MTH was in the right spot to make this because the ACS64 is a modified Eurosprinter, which would enable them to use the tooling to make a loco for the Euro-line as well as the Amtrak version. There being at least 5 paint jobs (The Siemens "billboard" with Amtrak logos on the cabs (602), the American flag (600, 601), the standard big "Wave" logo in the center, 642 Veterans and Septa) that I can think of, it seems like this should happen. 

NJ Transit has these engines.  I would definitely want a NJ Transit. 

I might cave for a vets issue,wouldnt it be fun in standard tho !!

I like the vets version as well but if I had to chose I would probably go with the flag if it were offered. 

 I'd be interested as well. 

Works for me!!

Maybe this will be like the 44 tonner.  Who ever gets to the table first gets to eat! I would like to see MTH do a version but I could live without motorized pantographs. 

MTH, would rather repaint thousands of the diesels that they have already done. I would have a few of these because they are going to be around in service for a long time.

Nicholas Smith ahs been trying to get Mike to do a custom run for them and he would buy the whole order and he wont do it.

I want one.   I asked Jack from Bachmann at the Big E show if there are any plans for a ACS-64 in O gauge.   (They have a HO scale ACS-64).   He stated that there isn't any plans for an O gauge ACS-64.

I think that Lionel and MTH are missing a good opportunity by not making an O gauge ACS-64. Can't understand it. Seems to me the business case is assured. What other locomotive that has not yet been made in O gauge do you think would attract more buyers? None, in my opinion.

MELGAR

Mike McCutcheon posted:

I want one.   I asked Jack from Bachmann at the Big E show if there are any plans for a ACS-64 in O gauge.   (They have a HO scale ACS-64).   He stated that there isn't any plans for an O gauge ACS-64.

Glad you did Mike. I was going to ask Jack the same thing but didn’t get to it. Sorry we didn’t get to talk at the show.  

I’ve watched most all of these units come through the Amtrak yard here in Chicago on their way east and they are very sharp looking. Even though I don’t get to see them run under their own power around here I’d still buy a couple of them for my layout. 

rrvics posted:

NJ Transit has these engines.  I would definitely want a NJ Transit. 

Good evening sir:

With respect, NJT does not have ACS64s.  I believe you are seeing the ALP46s, which MTH has done.  The current run is slated for delivery next month, in hi-rail and scale wheels, if you have money to burn.

https://mthtrains.com/20-5701-1

MTH used the tooling for the European TRAXX F140 AC2 locomotives, which is essentially what the ALP46 is.  With regard to the automatic pantographs, I agree with Chris above.  It is a neat idea and looks very appealing, but the mechanism is poorly designed and is not reliable for operation under catenary.

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And throw in some Viewliners too!

Absolutely!!!!  

I hope Lionel will do it, and with Lion Chief Plus Bluetooth. It could thus be part of a "starter" set to capture some of those kids who ride behind it. As they have shown with the SD60M, Lion Chief Pus with Bluetooth can also appeal to us older folks.

I plan to take my SD60M to the Timonium Fair Grounds show this weekend, Saturday Feb. 3,  9-5, and Sunday, Feb.4,  10-4.

Lionel said in a Q&A video a few months ago that they tried to, but couldn't come to a licensing agreement with Siemens. Now as for Viewliners, if they're 21", put me down for two sleepers, a baggage car, and maybe a diner.

I am pretty sure that leasing the drawings from Siemens are wicked expensive, and since there are only so many liveries you can do with the sprinter, the variety of road names is literally limited to Amtrak, somewhat house colors, and septa. I am satisfied kato and Bachmann were able to successfully pull off the sprinter, as that possibly sheds light to the o gauge market. I am not expecting this model in O gauge, because like what some other posts say, licensing and leasing can get to be quite complicated.

I rode behind 630 on the NE Corridor in October 2015. We clocked the train at 128MPH just south of the Susquehanna River bridge at Have De Grace, MD.

But nope, I have zero need for one, even though I do think they're cool.

I'm in for one also.

Joe B.

Chris Lonero posted:

I have liked the looks of this engine since I saw a preview photo in south station on the way to York one year. I know the chances of any of the big guys ponying up the money for new tooling is a long shot but if I had to guess Williams by Bachmann might be the best shot. Bachmann does produce different models in different scales. The ACS-64 is coming out in HO In the Bachmann line so maybe there’s hope!   Anyone else?

 

 

Chris, I wish you luck, that has to be one of the most unattractive pieces of equipment ever designed.  If you can get enough interest from Amtrak and electric fans I'm sure one of the manufacturers would make it. Still...  

Good afternoon BobbyD:

Agreed.  Additionally, I would take a properly modeled E60 before one of these any day.

I would take one.

Vet and flag engine.  Absolutely.   Rode behind this baby, it rules.

MELGAR posted:

I have proposed this model in O scale/gauge in several OGR Forum threads and would buy two or three. I believe it would have high sales in multiple production runs. Not clear to me why it hasn't already been produced in O... The ACS-64s travel through the most densely populated area of the US. Many people have seen and ridden behind them.

MELGAR

Well..... !! Let me give this a shot. (tongue and cheek now!)

One company might try and make this. If they do, they'll have to....

get the colors right. (purple box)

get the wiring and electronics right out of the box. (orange box) 

actually deliver the thing. (Hmmm, you know who I mean here right?) 

it would have to run on 2 rail also for sales? ( that one is for me) 

it would have to run on everyone's layouts including .0006 curves.  (the majority of the OGR)

So did all the people posting here also buy any of the latest releases even in Amtrak or other passenger stuff. I'm saying actually put the money where their voice was?

 OK, all that was for laughs only. I bet you'd sell maybe 50 to 100 units?? That wouldn't break even just on the new box's artwork costs.

I do wish you guys luck and there's always new stuff coming so you may get what you want. I think the market is saturated and interests are shifting to high volume, maybe HO stuff mainly.

I would also take a scale E60 in a heartbeat. 

Sure, I'd like an ACS-64. I have a Williams Amtrak E60. I'd love to own an AMTRAK ACS-64 for my MTH Amfleet cars.

Having more than 100 pieces of Amtrak-branded rolling stock, my answer is an absolute YES.

Maybe even two

---PCJ

I don't think that MTH will make one even though I wish they would. The reason why is I think they make too many European Traxx type and they might get stuck with them.

MELGAR posted:

I have proposed this model in O scale/gauge in several OGR Forum threads and would buy two or three. I believe it would have high sales in multiple production runs. Not clear to me why it hasn't already been produced in O... The ACS-64s travel through the most densely populated area of the US. Many people have seen and ridden behind them.

MELGAR

 

It's clear to me.....

ONE RR

TWO paint Schemes

Limited geographicly to Northeast Unied States.

Look at Lionel and whay happened to the HH8!

Should SEPTA, NJ Transit, and MARC obtain this model then it's time to tool up!

Mth could make this in scale with a mold with multi piece sections. Then they could make in the toy like Railking version. They would make sets also with the Railking amfleets. I think these ACS64 will be used for a long time I think Bachmann did it right by producing these. I think they should make a low budget version with no sound. When I hear these go buy also you hear is a rumble when it goes by and a horn. Its electric so its not going to make much of a sound. It only stops at  so many stations so you wont't always hear other sounds.

MTH won’t do it

BobbyD posted:

that has to be one of the most unattractive pieces of equipment ever designed.  

 

To those who dig it, great. To me, it's certainly one of the plainest looking engines I can think of. A block of wood with two ends shaved off.  

Maybe you like the same old overdone produced diesel locos.

This will sell, and continue to sell into the decade ahead.  Lionel made an HHP-8, a much less popular or successful locomotive.  I bought the HHP-8, both versions.  No idea why Lionel failed to produce a MARC Rail version and maximize the production?

My point is that "one of" type locos like the AEM7 and HHP8 have been made and sold.  This one would be more popular.  They need to duplicate the lighting affects as an added draw.

Matt Makens posted:

MTH won’t do it

Youre not kidding!!!