Atlas Gunderson Maxi IV are up on the Atlas website

Wasn't this the item that quite a few forum members were prepared to head to Atlas hq with pitchforks because they weren't in the catalog?

With 4 road #s for each set of well cars and 6 road #s for each container Atlas is allowing modelers to put together an impressive intermodal unit train right from the start.

Although I model 2 fallen flag railroads and won't be in the market for these new releases it's good to see Atlas deliver a product(s) that will no doubt be a success with those who run modern Class 1 railroads on their layouts.

Hopefully this announcement will appease the masses who have been calling for these to be made for quite awhile. Next up is a GP40-2...

Price is not bad and I like the three car sets.

Ok. Forgive my ignorance in advance.

So, if one was to order ALL the Pacer Mxci IV sets, that would be 4-a sets and 4-b sets?

I believe Rob from Atlas will have to clarify the listing.

Great to see Hub Group and EMP containers on the market.  Looks like these along with the three-car sets will be nice additions to the O Gauge intermodal world.

Thanks for posting the links Joe.

What would be the common containers for these? Are smaller ones mixed in or all 53'?

Though it's not the most efficient use of a 53-foot well, I've seen 40 ad 48-foot cans in a 53-foot well.

The pre-production sample looks good. The cans sell for $30 each so you have to add $180 to the price of the well set, so you're close to a grand for two sets with cans.

Think that might be a copy error. A little research shows a Husky Stack is a single car, a Maxi-StackI is a 5 car set, the Maxi-StackIV is built as a 3 car set. About 51" long will be a nice length for someone to add modern well cars to a smaller layout and not overwhelm it.

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Reading Matt's response it seems we can vary the container sizes for visual interest as well.

Long awaited... Glad to see the official announcement.  But we'll need some clarification on exactly what/how to order.  

In prior articulated Gunderson offerings, there was an implicit Pack A that included the individual A/B cars with couplers and a Pack B that included the C/D/E cars to fill out the 5-car set.  But the SKU's never included the letters A nor B.  Furthermore, with those prior offerings, Atlas-O listed different MSRP's for both package SKU's.

In this latest offering, they only quote a single 3-rail (and 2-rail) MSRP, presumably for a 3-car set.  Which begs the question... Does a 3-car set consist of an A and B package (i.e., a two-car plus one-car package)?  Or does the reference to the letters A and B in the SKU represent two completely different 3-car sets with unique roadnumbers?  The confusion is more compounded by the fact that the description indicates FOUR roadnumbers per livery.  So why not have SKU's with the letters C and D if these are being packaged as 3-car sets instead of 2-car and 1-car sets.    I'm sure the answer will be a simple one, but for now it's very puzzling.

As far as containers/cans... I'm disappointed that Atlas-O isn't offering the CSX containers in the "dark future" blue/yellow color scheme with the [CSX] logo over wheels.  That would have been ideal, as they were pictured in the original preview flyer.  I have several MTH twin-stack Gundersons in that paint scheme, and it would have been nice to extend the unit-train appearance with Atlas-O's new offering.  But not to be at this time.  Given the premium container pricing, I can take or leave the other container designs.

My prediction... The blue BRAN Pacer/Stacktrain offering with matching containers will be most popular.  Followed by the yellow TTX set.  Now if Atlas-O only would have just offered those [CSX] "dark future" containers, that would have been a super combo on TTX cars.

David

Our order desk people are not in yet, but I can give you some clarification right now.   The Maxi IV is a 3 car set.  Each A or B pack contains two 3 car sets with different road numbers.  The A set will include the -1 and -2 item numbers and the B set will include -3 and -4 item numbers.

For the containers, there are 8 road numbers for each scheme - six in one pack and 2 of each builder's (Jindo or CIMC) container in a six piece assortment for a total or 48 different containers.

Once our staff arrives, I will work with them to get the listing clarified for better understanding.  Sorry for the confusion.

The CSX containers never show up in the CN trains. There are many CN containers in the wells of intermodal cars on the CN lines.

The HUB and EMP containers are common in CN trains.

The AXSUN and SCHNEIDER 53' containers are often in CN trains.

I do miss the Intermodal trailers though. I will put the 45' Pines trailers in the wells of these MAXI-STACK cars.

Andrew

Bear in mind future repaint/reruns will get in all the popular container schemes just check out their current HO offerings.

Paul, many thanks for the clarification.  Of course, that now begs a silly question, but I need to ask anyway.   Does the MSRP apply to each 3-car set?  Or does the MSRP apply to the SKU (2-pack)?  Either way, what is the minimum order quantity for consumers... individual sets or a SKU/package with two sets?  Although I suppose dealers could break-up the two-pack SKU's if needed.

David

Yes... I noticed the two separate 53' Jindo 110" IH container offerings in HO... One dated July 2008 and another dated Nov 2009.  The latter announcement had the [CSX] "How Tomorrow Moves" containers.  That's what I'm looking for.    Just wish those jewels would have made the first cut in O-Scale.  But that will make it easier on funds going forward.    Already something to wish for in another year or so... Hopefully!!!

David 

The MSRP is for a 3 car set.  The guy that handles the item numbers is out today and Monday, so I will have to clear things up on Tuesday.  You should be able to order individual sets - this would replace the A and B at the end of the item number with -1 and -2  or -3 and -4 respectively.

Thanks, Paul.  That's what I thought... but we can all dream, right???  

Now please put those [CSX] "How Tomorrow Moves" on deck for a future container run... whether they be 40', 45', 53', or all the above.    Many thanks!!!

David

Will the new Atlas O 53 foot containers fit/lock on top of the previously released Atlas O 40 and 45 foot containers? Also vice versa (53 on bottom, 40 or 45 on top)?

I would think so, Atlas pays attention to that stuff. As for smaller containers on top, I don't think that is prototypical, smaller units always go on the bottom.

Good Day,

Atlas O states, "Two road Numbers are available per item number"

It is my understanding, if ordering (2) 3007401A BRAN and (2) 3007401B BRAN would represent (4) 3-Car Sets? Correct?

Bran:

3007401A BRAN 
3007401B BRAN

Regards,

Swafford

The dust hasn't quite settled yet in terms of exactly how dealers will accept orders.  But from Paul's response earlier this morning it sounds as if the SKU's with the letter A or B suffix represent TWO 3-car sets in each pack -- somewhat like a "master carton".  Pack A contains the -1 and -2 roadnumbers (i.e., two 3-car sets), and Pack B contains the -3 and -4 roadnumbers (i.e., two more 3-car sets).

So if you want FOUR sets, you'd order ONE Pack A and ONE Pack B.  Honestly, I think Atlas-O should do away with the A and B designation for consumer ordering purposes.  It's just a point of confusion -- especially since these are priced per 3-car set, not per SKU.  Hopefully, when dealers accept orders, it will be by set (i.e., -1, -2, -3, or -4) and the price will match accordingly.

David

Great to see these getting closer to being on the market.

Art

For planning purposes, it appears a completely populated (i.e., 2 containers per car) 3-car set will set us back approximately $430 (street-price) give or take a few dollars.

So all you folks planning on 6 or 8 sets should start saving those pennies NOW.   You'll be getting into GGD/3rd-Rail El Capitan territory in no time flat!!!  

May the pre-order dealer contests begin in earnest!!! 

David

David,

Its not going to be cheap for sure, but I have a lot of engines and they need to pull something Modern. I really want BNSF "Swoosh" well cars and Schneider / JB Hunt containers. But I am going to buy 2 BNSF, 2 TTX and 2 Pacer I think and some containers but not enough to populate all my cars. I will wait on the containers I want and hope they make them. May have to run some of my 40's on the bottom for a while. I would think in the early days of 53' well cars (like the BNSF) there was more of the 40's on the bottom, etc. Just happy to see the cars.

Joe

Does anyone know if the Hub (NS) containers green or red?

EMD,

I looked that up yesterday and I think they are the Green ones.

Thanks Blue Streak!

I've read in the past that EMP was an NS-UP venture, but that may not be entirely correct.

Does anybody know what containers are being seen the most of the ones offered on the BNSF routes?

Thanks

"You'll be getting into GGD/3rd-Rail El Capitan territory in no time flat!!!  "

                                                        . . . . . Rocky Mountaineer

You said it, David. I just got an e-mail from GGD and my El Capitan is on its way. Nothing like an expensive passenger set to "derail" my immediate plans. With the ABBA Atlas O "Chromed F7's" I will be set back more than the Dow Jones average after the Fed raises rates. Yikes !!

I had an amazing stack train pulled by 5 Legacy diesels and sold them all off in a moment of madness. Now as the madness turns to insufferable insanity, I realize how much I miss that train. I need an intervention.

After the math, three sets of these new cars with containers will set me back about $1,200. Ay God, Woodrow. 

OK . . . . here is an ignorant question. Lionel Husky Stacks are about $360 for a three car set. What are the differences in design? I thought my husky stacks from Lionel were well detailed.

Scrapiron

Well I don't recall me ever saying I wanted 6-8 sets, but on June 7, 2015 3:41 PM on this Forum I did post:

Scrapiron,

Is your order from the second run of the El Caps?

Also, if you are looking to replace some of the Inter-modal you sold off contact me I can hook you up with a guy that has PLENTY.  Cars & Containers. BFN.

Jim

Jim,

Many thanks.

Scott Mann sent me an e-mail last week that there was a brand new set of El Capitan from the first run that someone backed out on. I happily "backed in !!" I just missed out on the first run. Please send me the contact info for your friend and, once again, thanks.

Hopefully, there will be some Shekels left.

BTW . . . GGD did not have an "Extra" El Capitan cars left so I still need those.

Scrappy

Scrappy,  Check your email.  

Rocky,

GOOD CALL.  Mr Muffin's price (which is probably the BEST you are gonna find) is $423 for a 3-car set & 6 containers.

Had a bunch of the older stack cars, If these are done half as well they will be a hit for sure, especially in 2 rail.

Glad to see Atlas making a good come back as the hobby really needs some good, ready to run 2 rail stuff.

Since they have a planned delivery date of second quarter 2016, I plan on ordered two sets of TTX cars, for now.  I will also order 6 containers, as I, locally, only see single stacked cars. 

Although I would like to have enough cars to run by themselves, they would look good mixed in with my Atlas gundersons.

Jim