Any one hear yet from their dealer that this engine is now on the water? Mr Muffins posted recently this was the next engine due.
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Dont get your hopes up, this loco has been on the docket for something like 9 years. I have had 3 on order since 2011and Ive lost interest at this point
Had a call from my dealer confirming old reservations ,he had a call from Atlas saying factory is shipping these models now [ first announced in 2010 ] if so they should be on next container report.
That's awesome news! Will be interesting to really see how they are received and how well they stand up to current day expectations for a product that has had such a long and winding road... 
Actually if you have attended any shows over the years where Atlas has had their display booth the pilot models have been displayed in the 4 paint schemes they are coming in, what you have seen at any of these shows is what you will get , they are the first models produced from the tooling and will not have any more detail when delivered than what you see in the catalog, bear in mind it is a Tman model. just saying!
They are pretty close to the Mline GE 8-40Bs. JMO I was at the big "E" not sure which of those 2 dates ,snow was plowed up real high on parking lot edges, have not been back since then, Strasburg is my regular meet.
The engine in those pics looks pretty sharp. I really didn't study what makes it in the Trainman line-up? Is the 2 rail version DCC or does it come DCC ready?
I saw one in a Ohio show. It was a long while back.
jgtrh62 posted:Hi Joe,
I believe Atlas offers “DC Ready” and “DCC Gold” w/QSI Sound for 2 Rail, along with “TMCC” and “Conventional” for 3 Rail.
John
I have seen that in the past depending on the model and the line. I'm just wondering now with new releases. I thought I have read that the higher line would have decoders only. So I don't know about the trainman line?
This was the first Tman engine to be offered in the 2 rail Gold version as well as 2 rail DC, after 2006 no 2 rail versions [Silver] of Mline diesels were offered in 2 rail DC only Gold versions. Atlas has not had a new Tman line diesel since the 2009 GE announcement, obviously at the time with rising prices Atlas saw a competitive advantage by offering the new Tman diesels in a Gold version also for 2 rail buyers.
jgtrh62 posted:I don’t know either Joe, the following link to Atlas’s C40-8W webpage however lists what options are currently available.
https://shop.atlasrr.com/c-149-0206.aspx
Atlas also have the various versions listed for sale at their Store.
J
I think I see why I got confused. Maybe it's from the left over available models offered in certain configurations?
I think I did not see a DC version of the BNSF?? I was waffling over CSX vs BNSF versions. I never ordered either one. So maybe now the CSX DC version is one of the models with extras available?
I didn't know why this wasn't a Master line model and with all the MTH engines I bought, I forgot about these anyways.
master line 8-40s?
https://shop.atlasrr.com/c-232-085.aspx
B units are Master and C units are Trainman???
Yeah, with the long tail on these they have gone through several updates over the years. I even recall the TM + naming at one point since they weren't the usual TM features. Also likely looked at similar offering from MTH having more features around same price point.
IIRC, this locomotive was going to have a stamped chassis not a diecast chassis? Not sure if that changed, might also have been one of the TM differences?
The 2-rail Gold Trainman Dash 8-40CW's will have ESU LokSound decoders.
The Master Dash 8-40B's & BW's have been canceled. This was confirmed by Merlyn (Caboose Stop Hobbies) and Steve (Mr Muffin's Trains).
catnap posted:....The Master Dash 8-40B's & BW's have been canceled. ...
Maybe from pressure of the MTH current release?
https://mthtrains.com/search/8-40BW
https://mthtrains.com/22-20908-2
Engineer-Joe posted:catnap posted:....The Master Dash 8-40B's & BW's have been canceled. ...
Maybe from pressure of the MTH current release?
https://mthtrains.com/search/8-40BW
https://mthtrains.com/22-20908-2
I doubt it. The MTH version (top picture) looks goofy with its truck spacing and high water stance. Pretty sorry compared to the Atlas O verson (bottom).
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Goofy is putting mildly!
I don't know why they do those goofy catalog pics, but they do. Maybe it will have that high water tank? MTH has done a great job on the GE's that I have so far. What's with that goofy fake fan on the Atlas version anyways?
The MTH 3 rail C truck version below (to show the tank)
What I really can't stand is the terrible horns on the Lionel releases. I don't have to worry as they left 2 rail. It's good that Atlas uses better boards in at least their 2 rail versions.
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I'm guessing that Atlas canceled the Master Dash 8-40 B's and BW's because they didn't want them to coincide with the release of the Trainman Dash 8-40 CW's. They will probably be reannounced in another year.
The 2-rail DCC locomotives will have more authentic sounds than the 3-rail TMCC models. Legacy and ProtoSound 3.0 can't compete with ESU's library of sounds. It's not even close. Scroll down on ESU's site to hear what this engine will sound like...
breezinup posted:Engineer-Joe posted:catnap posted:....The Master Dash 8-40B's & BW's have been canceled. ...
Maybe from pressure of the MTH current release?
https://mthtrains.com/search/8-40BW
https://mthtrains.com/22-20908-2
I doubt it. The MTH version (top picture) looks goofy with its truck spacing and high water stance. Pretty sorry compared to the Atlas O verson (bottom).
Since MTH's idea of new tooling these days appears to be Christmas lights and glue, I'm guessing what they are trying to do with the Dash 8 is what they did with the original Premier models back in the early 90s--squeeze more out of the Dash 8 40CW body shell tooling by offering a Dash 8 40BW variant. But the prototype six-axle truck model is about three feet longer (70 feet versus 67 feet), and the car body is longer. The mock up in the MTH picture is worse still; that's actually a Dash 9 body (add three more scale feet), which makes it look even more daft. The Atlas Trainman model looks very promising.
RM
catnap posted:I'm guessing that Atlas canceled the Master Dash 8-40 B's and BW's because they didn't want them to coincide with the release of the Trainman Dash 8-40 CW's. They will probably be reannounced in another year.
The 2-rail DCC locomotives will have more authentic sounds than the 3-rail TMCC models. Legacy and ProtoSound 3.0 can't compete with ESU's library of sounds. It's not even close. Scroll down on ESU's site to hear what this engine will sound like...
I did have a Locksound decoder (in a SD40-2) and was very pleased with it's sounds. I will check out the newest as I always do. I am also very happy with the sounds in the MTH PS3 engines. They sound very realistic and are digitally accurate. As technology moves forward, boards will get better.
I don't jump on the latest greatest. It always seems there's a set back. I had trouble programming the old Locksound for my USA trains. I've heard the newer QSI's generate a lot of heat. I left DCC because of constant programming issues. I'm sure it's better now. It had to get better than it used to be.
I personally would not compare MTH's PS3 diesel sounds to Lionel's. I just can't get past their horns. The rest of the Lionel sounds are good. I would use them as helpers (no horns) if they would consist with my other engines.
catnap posted:I'm guessing that Atlas canceled the Master Dash 8-40 B's and BW's because they didn't want them to coincide with the release of the Trainman Dash 8-40 CW's. They will probably be reannounced in another year.
The 2-rail DCC locomotives will have more authentic sounds than the 3-rail TMCC models. Legacy and ProtoSound 3.0 can't compete with ESU's library of sounds. It's not even close. Scroll down on ESU's site to hear what this engine will sound like...
That sample sounds a lot better on my computer than this video
So the only one available is the UP in 2 rail conventional version?
Any dealers got extras of these coming? (BNSF?)
Interesting,
My LHS also told me the dash8 Bs had been cancelled a week ago but they still show on their website as available for preorder and the production schedule still shows Q1 18. So...
Engineer-Joe posted:So the only one available is the UP in 2 rail conventional version?
Any dealers got extras of these coming? (BNSF?)
Check with Mr Muffin's. I'll bet he can get you a 2-rail DCC Union Pacific Dash 8. I placed an order with him today for a couple of 2-rail Gold CSX Dash 8's.
Engineer-Joe posted:So the only one available is the UP in 2 rail conventional version?
Any dealers got extras of these coming? (BNSF?)
Based on that Atlas link that appears to be so as that one has a quantity box. Any dealer taking orders now is putting you on standby as the model run is done at the factory, cancellations unless a dealer has reserved for inventory. JMO
Engineer-Joe posted:I don't know why they do those goofy catalog pics, but they do. Maybe it will have that high water tank? MTH has done a great job on the GE's that I have so far. What's with that goofy fake fan on the Atlas version anyways?
The MTH 3 rail C truck version below (to show the tank)
What I really can't stand is the terrible horns on the Lionel releases. I don't have to worry as they left 2 rail. It's good that Atlas uses better boards in at least their 2 rail versions.
Joe, Those GE's look great!
Atlas has reproduced that "fake fan" in all the scales and seems like they just carried it into O Scale instead of making a more realistic radiator fan!
